Here comes the tax rises

[Russ]

The rest of the country is free to think what they like, I’m not trying to speak for them.

What she says and does may or may not have a bearing on the future, the point I’m making is I don’t recall the same noises from the same people when the last government was lying from day to day.

[Taf]

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Taf

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

you're telling me, Fillet Steak at the pub used to be around £25, £32 presently.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Russ

Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.

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Originally Posted by Taf

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Don't think labour has grasped this.and definitely Richard hasn't

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Taf

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

If each stage in a chain has their costs increased by NI, then those links add up. Eg 0.2% increase in costs in one stage, might not look too bad, but after 5 of those stages you get a 1% increase by the last stage

Originally Posted by Itshim

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.

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Don't think labour has grasped this.and definitely Richard hasn't

Not everyone is solipsistic…

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not everyone is solipsistic…

no most people are just selfish barstewards

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not everyone is solipsistic…

Really , love your faith in mankind. Clearly charity's have not got the right mailing lists

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not everyone is solipsistic…

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no most people are just selfish barstewards

Originally Posted by Itshim

Really , love your faith in mankind. Clearly charity's have not got the right mailing lists

Probably says more about you than others…

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

you're telling me, Fillet Steak at the pub used to be around £25, £32 presently.

Depends on weight dry or wet aged etc

For a 7oz dry aged ex dairy fillet iirc last time I had one I paid about £36 not including sauces and sides

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Itshim

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.

So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Depends on weight dry or wet aged etc

For a 7oz dry aged ex dairy fillet iirc last time I had one I paid about £36 not including sauces and sides

Too much.

I’ve had to downgrade to Rib Eye / Rump, which is ok, if cooked right with sauce …still good.

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Originally Posted by Russ

So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

Jesus………..

I think we’ve heard it….all before………many times……….we get it………….you don’t like Boris…………or double standards………WE KNOW….

[Taf]

Originally Posted by nomadking

If each stage in a chain has their costs increased by NI, then those links add up. Eg 0.2% increase in costs in one stage, might not look too bad, but after 5 of those stages you get a 1% increase by the last stage

And, of course, it's not just the increases of employer NI behind it.

Do not forget that whilst households have had a bit of insulation from rising power prices, most of industry has not. And then there is the government edict that employers increase their wages to at least The Minimum Wage. And fuel costs.

It all "trickles down" to consumers in the end, to make them poorer, not richer.

But at least HMG profits from it all by higher VAT, NI and Income Tax receipts.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Too much.

I’ve had to downgrade to Rib Eye / Rump, which is ok, if cooked right with sauce …still good.

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Jesus………..

I think we’ve heard it….all before………many times……….we get it………….you don’t like Boris…………or double standards………WE KNOW….

Rump I’m not such a fan of but a decent rib eye done right is a cracking steak as is plank

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Itshim

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.

Except the actions of Boris and his elk brought about the downfall of the last government which has resulted in something you feel does effect you. Cause and effect, ironic isn't it.