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Itshim 28-07-2024 20:24

Here comes the tax rises
 
Wonder what spin will be put on the reason for the Increase in taxes :)

Mr K 28-07-2024 21:03

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36179912)
Wonder what spin will be put on the reason for the Increase in taxes :)

14 years of incompetent Govt? Depends who they target, there's sections of society who've had it very well over the last decade, whilst others have struggled. We weren't 'all in it together' after all. Time to pay your dues.

RichardCoulter 28-07-2024 22:08

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There's speculation that CGT will be increased to the income tax rates. Sounds fair enough to me, especially if it means people can get medical care when they need it.

denphone 29-07-2024 05:49

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36179912)
Wonder what spin will be put on the reason for the Increase in taxes :)

Whoever formed the next government would have had to put up taxes of some sort.

The reality of the last 14 years saw to that.

papa smurf 29-07-2024 08:15

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Fully funded didn't last long.

Pierre 29-07-2024 08:32

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36179917)
There's speculation that CGT will be increased to the income tax rates. Sounds fair enough to me, especially if it means people can get medical care when they need it.

Won’t mean anything of the sort.

papa smurf 29-07-2024 08:53

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
i have on occasion mislaid the odd quid and it haunted me not knowing where it went ,but to miss a £20,000,000,000 black hole in your budget seems to smack of incompetance or a blatent lie.

Inactive Digital 29-07-2024 09:04

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Based on the election campaign, two questions that I'm looking for answers to:

If cuts are being made to funding for public services, what impact will that have on returning them back to an acceptable level of performance.

If capital/infrastructure projects are bing delayed, how will that impact growth?


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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179936)
i have on occasion mislaid the odd quid and it haunted me not knowing where it went ,but to miss a £20,000,000,000 black hole in your budget seems to smack of incompetance or a blatent lie.

The truth us usually somewhere in-between.

Hugh 29-07-2024 11:30

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179936)
i have on occasion mislaid the odd quid and it haunted me not knowing where it went ,but to miss a £20,000,000,000 black hole in your budget seems to smack of incompetance or a blatent lie.

Well, if you don't have full access to the information, and only find out the extent of the problem once you do, it's a bit different from losing "an odd quid"...

tweetiepooh 29-07-2024 11:49

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An increase in capital gains would be a pain. Labour likes to penalise those that invest and plan.
They need to work out a way where it is better to work than not, that is if people get work they don't lose out on all the benefits they get while not working. It must be hard to look at the figures and work out that to take a job would mean being worse off than not to do so. "Benefits" need to be scaled so that it is never more beneficial just to stay on welfare.

jfman 29-07-2024 16:04

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Ending the winter fuel payment for those not on Pension Credit will upset the blue rinse brigade.

nomadking 29-07-2024 16:11

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179936)
i have on occasion mislaid the odd quid and it haunted me not knowing where it went ,but to miss a £20,000,000,000 black hole in your budget seems to smack of incompetance or a blatent lie.

A large chunk seems to be the 5.5% pay rise for the public sector. Anything above the inflation rate is largely down to Labour. Now add in the 22% for Junior doctors and £20bn is going to be peanuts when everybody else wants 22%.
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The government and the BMA trade union have struck an improved pay deal for junior doctors in England worth 22% on average over two years.

denphone 29-07-2024 16:13

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36179978)
Ending the winter fuel payment for those not on Pension Credit will upset the blue rinse brigade.

A huge financial black hole requires that some things will have to give sadly.

Mr K 29-07-2024 16:21

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36179979)
A large chunk seems to be the 5.5% pay rise for the public sector. Anything above the inflation rate is largely down to Labour. Now add in the 22% for Junior doctors and £20bn is going to be peanuts when everybody else wants 22%.
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What about the 14 years when the public sector got less than inflation? Its catch up time, and above inflation increases will be needed for several years. . They should be greatful the whole of the public sector isn't demanding all the lost pay at once like the Junior Dr's have.

ianch99 29-07-2024 16:25

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36179960)
An increase in capital gains would be a pain. Labour likes to penalise those that invest and plan.
They need to work out a way where it is better to work than not, that is if people get work they don't lose out on all the benefits they get while not working. It must be hard to look at the figures and work out that to take a job would mean being worse off than not to do so. "Benefits" need to be scaled so that it is never more beneficial just to stay on welfare.

It would be a pain for those who do not want to pay a fair tax rate. For "those that invest and plan", read: those small number of people who use their wealth to generate income but do not want to pay the same rate as those who receive their income via PAYE.

Sums up the "Me First, Country Last" approach to being a citizen :)


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