General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.

[Gavin-D]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...831826/page/10 - post 92 and 95

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by colin25

Yes, unless they are not allowed to say anything until 1 Aug. then they would need something to keep them on track, until it was announced...

As I said earlier, this is a highly commercialy sensitive situation. Nobody at VM is in a position to confirm anything until the embargo is lifted, even if they do know.

Originally Posted by Gavin-D

From the VM help forums regarding BT Sport this was posted last week

From what I can gather BT made an offer to VM to carry BT Sport but VM turned this down as it would mean XL customers would have had to pay more to get it and this is something VM don't want what the current situation is I don't know but thats why its taking a long time to get it VM want it free for XL customers and BT don't so a compromise needs to be found

The sums can add up by taking a small cut from every XL subscription as opposed to a lot fewer full price subscriptions.

However, BT would prefer people took their broadband from themselves and received BT Sports (Initially) for free.

Those who will not or cannot leave VM are unlikely to get their broadband from BT, so in essence it is a case of XL or add on.

BT believe that including their channels within XL could devalue the BT Sports brand.

It's a case of will the numbers add up after being crunched and BT being persuaded that going into XL would not affect their premium branding for BT Sports.

Setanta did it first, but they were desperate. ESPN initially said no to XL, citing this as being one of the reasons that Setanta went under. After the subscription revenue was presented to them along with the extra that they could charge advertisers due to the vastly increased consumer base, they changed their minds...

[cdf90]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Yes it will - they have been activley reopening lots of negotiations on lots of things over the last 2 weeks.

I wonder if Virgin are frantically trying to get new channels on XL to replace ESPN, after assuming they could just add BT Sport to XL and have now realised that they won't be able to, and know that customers that have been ringing VM threatening to drop packages/leave?

[Lostlam]

It looks like BT Sports will be a standalone package then. VM better think twice about the cost of XL then.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

It looks like BT Sports will be a standalone package then. VM better think twice about the cost of XL then.

Or Virgin will reuse ESPN Money to get more channels on the Basic M, M+, L or XL packages.

[Lostlam]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Or Virgin will reuse ESPN Money to get more channels on the Basic M, M+, L or XL packages.

I can't see any other channels that equate to the value of ESPN. The only channel that seems to be on most people's list is Sky Atlantic, but it isn't in the same price bracket.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

I can't see any other channels that equate to the value of ESPN. The only channel that seems to be on most people's list is Sky Atlantic, but it isn't in the same price bracket.

Virgin may do the following with the money save on ESPN:

-The cost of the XL Package may stay as now in 2014.
-New Channels will launch.

[Lostlam]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Virgin may do the following with the money save on ESPN:

-The cost of the XL Package may stay as now in 2014.
-New Channels will launch.

Isn't there any chance they will lower the cost of the XL package?

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

Isn't there any chance they will lower the cost of the XL package?

My own view - no.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

And why is this ???

Because there are a whole pile of commercial, legal and technical details to sort out. Both sides want to make sure everything is done properly.

It's a bit like buying a house. You get there in the end, but it takes time.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

Isn't there any chance they will lower the cost of the XL package?

VM have all ready said price wont change

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...RTICLE_ID=7615

[Lostlam]

Originally Posted by Dave42

VM have all ready said price wont change

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...RTICLE_ID=7615

Thanks for the info. I think they will lose a lot of customers, me being one, as they don't really have a USP apart from TIVO. Their pricing for Sky Sports is very high, and they don't have a bigger channel directory than Sky.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

Thanks for the info. I think they will lose a lot of customers, me being one, as they don't really have a USP apart from TIVO. Their pricing for Sky Sports is very high, and they don't have a bigger channel directory than Sky.

they be adding channels it just we don't know what yet should know in next week and a half so would wait and see what comes before deciding

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Because there are a whole pile of commercial, legal and technical details to sort out. Both sides want to make sure everything is done properly.

It's a bit like buying a house. You get there in the end, but it takes time.

Cheers bud,thanks for explaining it totally understand now

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Cheers bud,thanks for explaining it totally understand now

yes we just got to wait to they can announce something Howard mate