Students Rioting in London. - Page 38

Sirius · 13-12-2010, 20:09

Anyone notice how this thread has been moved exclusively to the guy in the wheel chair instead of the hooligans that were rioting and terrorising the public. oh well it gives someone the chance to be a bleeding heart lefty and attack the police AGAIN.

Russ · 13-12-2010, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

One doesn't have to be a police officer to have some common sense. It really is much easier to move someone, still in their wheelchair than drag them, struggling, across a road.

One doesn't, but one's sense of perspective changes when one is in the middle of a riot and doesn't have the luxury of thinking a situation through before putting the world to rights on an internet forum and telling the world how one could do it better than those in the thick of it.

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But then neither do you, we can only speculate what the protester was saying,

The difference being I am open minded enough to not yet have made up my mind about what was going on.

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but the image of him being tipped out his chair and dragged across the road, was clear enough.

Yes, clear enough for you to show how narrow-minded you are and feel no need to seek the full facts first. In the words of the youth of today, "epic fail".

nomadking · 13-12-2010, 20:12

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And some are calling for these thugs to have a water canon; the mind boggles.

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Deleting my question and making fun of it makes no difference to your reply. What did she mean by:

Is pulling a paraplegic from a wheelchair totally justifiable as well? The reason I ask is, that there seemed to be some disagreement with the officers on the ground. For the life of me I can't possibly see were the justification would have come from though. Perhaps with your inside knowledge you could explain it.

Paraplegic?

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Mr McIntyre, who has been disabled since birth with cerebral palsy

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The 20-year-old political activist and blogger

ie troublemaker.

Flyboy · 13-12-2010, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Sirius

i knew you would ask a question.

I don't know ask the idiots that start the riots

. if they did not start the riots then they would be no need for these measures.

But the children and the disabled peaceful protesters didn't start the riots. Therefore, they shouldn't be subjected to the punishments you want to have dished out to those who do.

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Secondly the people organising these protests know that there are going to be idiots, hooligans, and general doe balls at there protests so why not do what you do best and ask them as well.

Are they on this forum (whoops! Sorry, another question

)? It would be great if they were, because you could ask them some questions too.

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As for my feelings on the subject i have no intention of answering only to have a question from you are as reply. I have better things to do with my time than engaging in your debating technique of constantly asking questions whilst not giving answers in return. I will now await the little flashing indicator in the top right of my screen with your normal retort

Aah, yes the tricky questions are always the most difficult to answer. Instead of complaining about me asking questions, why don't you answer one or two of them? It might help me understand your reasoning.

**Maggy** · 13-12-2010, 20:13

I regard myself as having a great deal of common sense and I can see that in the middle of a group of pushing and shoving police and demonstrators that picking someone up fireman style and moving them is possibly preferable than trying to move the man and the possibly heavy wheelchair.

Just a thought.

But then I'm a reasonable thinking person.

Russ · 13-12-2010, 20:14

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Originally Posted by nomadking

ie troublemaker.

No that doesn't make someone a troublemaker. But using a disability to create a situation the police have no chance of looking anything other than the bad guys in just to make a point, THAT would be a troublemaker.

Flyboy · 13-12-2010, 20:15

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who said he was tipped ?,it certainly isn't very clear from that video that is another one of your anti police assumption

are you serious ? every single time that a police thread comes up you are one of the most vocal to vilify them

That is because it fits with the "abuse of authority" thing.

danielf · 13-12-2010, 20:15

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But then I'm a reasonable thinking person.

Then what are you doing posting on these forums?

Sirius · 13-12-2010, 20:15

Here's some video from the other night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4NhBw-1yE

Watch the hooligan students with there steel bars but of course some here will say its all the fault of the police.

Russ · 13-12-2010, 20:17

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Aah, yes the tricky questions are always the most difficult to answer.

So are the ones which have the "I'm right because I'm right. Why? because I'm right" as the primary motivation.

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Instead of complaining about me asking questions, why don't you answer one or two of them? It might help me understand your reasoning.

But you don't want to understand. You have no intentions, because as we're used to by now, "Flyboy is right because flyboy is right."

**Maggy** · 13-12-2010, 20:17

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Then what are you doing posting on these forums?

Same as you. I like a challenge.

Flyboy · 13-12-2010, 20:22

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Balance easiest and safest. If someone doesn't want to be moved you move them. End of story.

Would you be happier if he was cuffed to the chair to stop him moving his arms while he was wheeled away?

What is safer, throwing him from his chair and dragging him across the road, with the officers having not a clue why he was in a chair endangering him even further, or restraining him safely and wheeling him across the road? If it came to it, they could always lift him out of his chair and carry him, bosun style.

**Maggy** · 13-12-2010, 20:25

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What is safer, throwing him from his chair and dragging him across the road, with the officers having not a clue why he was in a chair endangering him even further, or restraining him safely and wheeling him across the road? If it came to it, they could always lift him out of his chair and carry him, bosun style.

There you go using highly emotive language again.Throwing and dragging.

Cobbydaler · 13-12-2010, 20:26

Is anybody counting?

We should make this into a game.

How many questions will Flyboy be asked before he responds with an answer instead of a question?

Flyboy · 13-12-2010, 20:29

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What the hell are you talking about now? I swear your posts are getting more and more detached from reality as we go along. If people want to protest, as is their democratic right then get on with it.

But if people think they can riot while doing so then they deserve a water cannon.

The only noise around here is what you keep spouting about how you'd do it better than the police.

Tell you what, why not join up as a Special. In fact I know why not - you wouldn't last 2 minutes.

I am sorry of I have a different opinion to everybody else, but I thought that was point of having a debate.