Who is right here?

Central · 05-01-2007, 01:51

http://forums.ntlhell.co.uk/index.ph...dpost&p=262926

He claims adslmax is ADSL2+.
I told him its standard ADSL and well he dont believe me.

So who is right?

nffc · 05-01-2007, 01:59

You are.

ADSL Max is basically when LLU is enabled on the line meaning that it "unlocks" the 2 Mb/s cap meaning you just get as much as your signal allows.

ADSL2+ doubles the number of downstream bits cf standard ADSL meaning the connection speed can be doubled regardless of where you are.

With ADSL Max, if you can only get 1 Mb because of the line, you will only get 1 Mb, on ADSL2+ you will get 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL2%2B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL_Max

Central · 05-01-2007, 02:02

Thank you.

Bloody ntl Employees

bopdude · 05-01-2007, 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Be*

Thank you.

Bloody ntl Employees

Where does it say he's an NTL employee

Central · 05-01-2007, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude

Where does it say he's an NTL employee

Next to his name

oooh my mistake I thought it did

I am going to hide now and be embarrassed

I retract my last statement about NTL Employees

Mr BT · 05-01-2007, 09:51

LLU = Local Loop Unbundling means BT releases the copper from exchange to customer so other ISP's can put their own DSLAMs in the exchange.

A line still with BTWholesale and wholesaled to other ISPs is not Unbundled and with ADSL Max (G.992.1) will sync upto 8Mbps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbundling

Saaf_laandon_mo · 05-01-2007, 10:02

He is right cause he's a bloke ;-)

nho1993 · 06-01-2007, 22:57

jsut a quest, is sky ADSL Max or ADSL2+? checks say i w ill get 3MB on MAX so would taht mean ill get maimum 6 on adsl2+

Central · 06-01-2007, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by nho1993

jsut a quest, is sky ADSL Max or ADSL2+? checks say i w ill get 3MB on MAX so would taht mean ill get maimum 6 on adsl2+

Sky is ADSL2+ on the exchanges its enabled on otherwise they use BT IPStream and that is max

nho1993 · 07-01-2007, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Be*

Sky is ADSL2+ on the exchanges its enabled on otherwise they use BT IPStream and that is max

thanks for the info, i signed up for hte mid package and should be connected on wednesday, so i suppose that is ADSL2+ as sky is enabled in my exchange, hope i get good speeds.

Thanks

nho1993 · 10-01-2007, 12:17

just got connected, getting around 4MB but im not on ADSL2+ anyone know why?

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Connection Speed 3776 kbps 416 kbps Line Attenuation 55.0 db 31.5 db Noise Margin 11.9 db 14.0 db
Is this a good speed with these stats

Central · 10-01-2007, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by nho1993

just got connected, getting around 4MB but im not on ADSL2+ anyone know why?

---------- Post added at 12:17 ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 ----------

Connection Speed 3776 kbps 416 kbps Line Attenuation 55.0 db 31.5 db Noise Margin 11.9 db 14.0 db
Is this a good speed with these stats

That is a very long line at 55db roughly about 4km+. Thats is a good sync speed for the length and I am willing to bet its a ADSL2+ connection

nho1993 · 10-01-2007, 15:05

i looked at my router config fie and its ADSL1 the mode says GDMT or something like that, really confused

Central · 10-01-2007, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by nho1993

i looked at my router config fie and its ADSL1 the mode says GDMT or something like that, really confused

Tell me exactly what it said?

What exchange you on?

Have you asked Sky?

nho1993 · 10-01-2007, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Be*

Tell me exactly what it said?

What exchange you on?

Have you asked Sky?

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 416 Kbps, Downstream rate = 3776 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.DMT
Channel: Interleave
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 11.8 14.0
Attn(dB): 55.0 31.5
Pwr(dBm): 19.4 1.3
Max(Kbps): 4192 1088
Rate (Kbps): 3776 416
G.dmt framing
K: 119(0) 14
R: 16 16
S: 2 16
D: 64 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 1 1
B: 119 14
M: 2 16
T: 1 1
R: 16 16
S: 2.1333 17.0666
L: 960 120
D: 64 8
Counters
SF: 1812159 1812157
SFErr: 811 14
RS: 61613430 7701667
RSCorr: 112038 84
RSUnCorr: 17846 0

HEC: 669 0
OCD: 8 24
LCD: 0 4
Total Cells: 274324656 0
Data Cells: 1860580 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 529 0
SES: 475 0
UAS: 20 0
Total time = 8 hours 33 min 54 sec
SF = 1812159
CRC = 811
LOS = 1302
LOF = 0
ES = 529
Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 33 min 54 sec
SF = 1812159
CRC = 811
LOS = 1302
LOF = 0
ES = 529
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 54 sec
SF = 13762
CRC = 2
LOS = 4
LOF = 0
ES = 4
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52930
CRC = 11
LOS = 21
LOF = 0
ES = 21
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52989
CRC = 7
LOS = 9
LOF = 0
ES = 10
15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52931
CRC = 46
LOS = 42
LOF = 0
ES = 21
15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52930
CRC = 12
LOS = 24
LOF = 0
ES = 21

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im on the bracknell exchange, and have not contacted sky yet

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i was told by people on www.skyusers.com that if mode was on G.DMT it was ADSL1