Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.

[cje85]

Originally Posted by nodrogd

Things are different now. All channels on UK platform EPG's must have a UK licence, so must obey the UK's rules on content. In short the content is still out there, but you now need specialised equipment to get it.

Richard is actually correct in this case. A broadcaster does not need to hold a UK licence if it is already licensed elsewhere in the EU/EEA. For example a couple of channels including Eurosport and Euronews are licensed in France and do not hold an Ofcom licence.

This is also why Ofcom can not directly act on complaints about certain Dutch-registered adult services on Freeview and instead passes complaints to the Dutch regulator (https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...n-ofcom-action). The issue here appears to be about how easily accessible the channel is and not specifically the content which is very soft and nothing that isn't already allowed on UK TV.

Ofcom reserve the right to intervene in extreme cases and can force a foreign licensed channel off air in the UK.

[andrewbrown]

As OFCOM is a toothless organisation, I don't see the issue on channels being regulated elsewhere in the EU.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by andrewbrown

As OFCOM is a toothless organisation, I don't see the issue on channels being regulated elsewhere in the EU.

The issue seems be one of PIN protection on some older Freeview devices, not OFCOM.

The issue seems to be of some parents not supervising their children appropriately, considering these channels are on late at night....

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I don't think that it is a person's right to have children (it's a privilege) and, in the most extreme cases, would support mandatory sterilisation of some males and females.

Yes it is their right ,it is absolutely their right,it's even written into the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and for you to even suggest mandatory sterilisation suggests to me that you need removing from society for the good of everyone

[Anypermitedroute]

This is turning into a very prickly situation

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by andrewbrown

As OFCOM is a toothless organisation, I don't see the issue on channels being regulated elsewhere in the EU.

Lol, good point.

Originally Posted by Hugh

The issue seems to be of some parents not supervising their children appropriately, considering these channels are on late at night....

Some of these channels broadcast all day Hugh, also, some toddlers who wake up very early looking for cartoons can catch some of the more explicit material broadcast prior to the start of the broadcasting day at 6am.

Originally Posted by martyh

Yes it is their right ,it is absolutely their right,it's even written into the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and for you to even suggest mandatory sterilisation suggests to me that you need removing from society for the good of everyone

It doesn't surprise me that you are in favour of maintaining the worst elements of society.

An interesting topic though, why don't you start a thread about it?

[rhyds]

This thread kind of sums up the whole "moral panic" about adult channels.

Kids these days don't even bother with broadcast porn....

Maybe it might be time for some to step away from the thread.

[pip08456]

Maybe it might be time to close it. It's not moving forward.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

But they couldn't if the responsible parent had blocked those channels using appropriate controls available on their Freeview device.

Whatever the argument is around whether they should be blocked by default, the end responsibility is still that of the parent.

I think it's a bit too easy to say that stuff should be blocked by default. Personally, I object to it. Parents need to take responsibility. Regardless of whether a kid can watch porn or not, they should probably be asleep (and therefore not watching *anything* when the porn channels broadcast).

Paul has suggested turning the power off. Fair enough that it's not ideal to get toddlers playing around sockets (although it's worth pointing out that the UK 3 Pin design is arguably the safest in the world, and I've seen experts argue that it's perfectly safe even for kids), but it's perfectly possible to disable a freeview box or TV without touching the mains. Just remove the aerial or the box itself. This also works for any other devices, such as tablets or phones.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It doesn't surprise me that you are in favour of maintaining the worst elements of society.

It doesn't surprise me that in order to deflect peoples attention away from your disgraceful and hideous comments on sterilisation you try to paint others as supporters of the dreggs of humanity .There are many ways to treat bad parents but forced sterilisation is most definitely not one of them

An interesting topic though

No it's not

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Lol, good point.



Some of these channels broadcast all day Hugh, also, some toddlers who wake up very early looking for cartoons can catch some of the more explicit material broadcast prior to the start of the broadcasting day at 6am.



It doesn't surprise me that you are in favour of maintaining the worst elements of society.

An interesting topic though, why don't you start a thread about it?

How about putting the remote out of the reach of the toddler - problem solved...

Originally Posted by Hugh

How about putting the remote out of the reach of the toddler - problem solved...

Really Hugh using logic is really underhand of you..you should stick to emotive, hand wringing and ridiculous hyperbole to prove your point..

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Really Hugh using logic is really underhand of you..you should stick to emotive, hand wringing and ridiculous hyperbole to prove your point..

We are not all like Richard thankfully!