Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb

[Web-Junkie]

@Bill C: SB 4100 so can't see that info!

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Web-Junkie

@Bill C: SB 4100 so can't see that info!

I find it odd that Motorola would provide a built-in webpage-like config... thingy [technical term ] for the 3100, but not the 4100.

Have you tried:
http://192.168.100.1/

Then again, as far as I can see, my 3100 doesn't list what speed it's set to, so if your 4100 just shows the same stuff it won't provide the info you want.

[jaycee]

The 4100 has a diagnostic page just like the 3100 does - I had a 4100 when i lived in a Telewest area and was always looking at the diag page (had some issues early on)

[etccarmageddon]

my config is still 512k on the upload.

[Daffy Duck]

On the 4100 if you go to 192.168.100.1 and click on logs you'll see 4 columns,one of these is labelled code.Look for E102.0 and you should see something like this in the message column
SW Download INIT - Via Config file cm-10240-384
I'm with BY and am used to the 384 upload,was rather hoping that we'd get the NTL 512 but seems they're going the other way on this.
What surprises me tho,if it's true,is the timing...why do it now when it means taking something away from your customers which is bound to upset more than a few people.Surely,if the rumoured upgrades are true,that would be the time to do it....put the 10meg on the 20/768 that BY has trialled.That way you'd be complaining that you weren't given as much,for free,that you'd expected or hoped for.A totally different scenario and ,in my opinion,no real justification for a complaint

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

my config is still 512k on the upload.

Same on mine

As i said i will make some phone calls tomorrow and see if i can find out what is going on.

[cookster]

Still 512k here:

Network Access : AllowedMaximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragmentation Disabled, PHS DisabledMaximum Number of CPEs : 1

[jtwn]

Originally Posted by geminian68

It's already virtually becoming fact over at nth :

[quote name='xDarkAngelx' date='Dec 8 2006, 06:25 PM' post='254071']
Was talking about this today to an NTL employee...

Apparently they are altering the speeds so 20mbit can have 512k up!

And these are also the same upload speeds TW users have...i guess they want the same all across?

If it is true, you would imagine they would increase Telewest's upload, rather than decrease Ntl's

xDarkAngelx REPEATEDLY makes things up. DO NOT believe what he says. His life is very sad. Trust me.

[dcclanuk]

mine's still on 512k jus chked config!

but currently it doesnt matter what speeds u have with ntl, as they are never upto wat they are configured to anyway! so i guess this will only affect ppl that are actually getting the advertised speeds!

Originally Posted by jtwn

xDarkAngelx REPEATEDLY makes things up. DO NOT believe what he says. His life is very sad. Trust me.

Remember you should not bash other members of forums.

And i recognise your addy, funnily from what i remember your the one banned from a few efnet channels for starting lies and spreading bull rumours...yes?

Anyways...my upload is set at 512k but i've been struggling to get over 30kb/s for a few weeks now, but im guessing thats due to nottinghams upload bandwith being saturated like hell (ntl have admitted this)

And im pretty sure the site is just a typo...at least, im hoping so.

If not, then i would be off to be, i need that upload (the slow down has practically stopped my gaming as of late)

[SnoopZ]

No change for me yet.

[Web-Junkie]

I know the 4100 has a diag page, it just doesn't show the upload/download speeds, i do see this a lot in the log:

061210115226 7-Information H501.6HFC:  TRC SYNC Recovery OK
061210115224 3-Critical    H501.4HFC:  LOST TRC SYNC- trying to recover
061210115224 7-Information H501.12HFC: FEC LOCK recovery OK
061210115224 3-Critical    T5.0SYNC    Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync

But can't see the E102.0 entry mentioned.

[Daffy Duck]

I seem to have different entries to you.This is what i get

0611180028338-DebugM579.3CM Cert Upgrade Disabled. Motorola CM certificate present 0611180028338-DebugF502.2Bridge Forwarding Disabled. 0611180028327-InformationX500.0Attempting Unit Update 0611180028276-NoticeE102.0SW Download INIT - Via Config file cm-10240-384 0611180028278-DebugI503.0Cable Modem is OPERATIONAL 0611180028268-DebugF502.1Bridge Forwarding Enabled. 0611180028268-DebugF502.3Bridge Learning Enabled. 0611180028268-DebugB918.0Baseline Privacy is skipped
As you can see the e102.0 entry gives the speed i'm on

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

I seem to have different entries to you.This is what i get

0611180028338-DebugM579.3CM Cert Upgrade Disabled. Motorola CM certificate present 0611180028338-DebugF502.2Bridge Forwarding Disabled. 0611180028327-InformationX500.0Attempting Unit Update 0611180028276-NoticeE102.0SW Download INIT - Via Config file cm-10240-384 0611180028278-DebugI503.0Cable Modem is OPERATIONAL 0611180028268-DebugF502.1Bridge Forwarding Enabled. 0611180028268-DebugF502.3Bridge Learning Enabled. 0611180028268-DebugB918.0Baseline Privacy is skipped
As you can see the e102.0 entry gives the speed i'm on

Are you on Blueyonder, Everything about that config points to it.

[popper]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ
The upload for 2mbit has increased to 256 (Kbps) on this webpage so i'd say it's not a typo either!

2Mb broadband Upload Speed (Kbps) 256
4Mb broadband Upload Speed (Kbps) 384
10Mb broadband Upload Speed (Kbps) 384

Let's hope its just a trial and they won't lower the uploads.

Just rebooted my modem and i haven't been downgraded yet.

now that would be a significant change , now as its in the 2mbit users favour , the users let that slide, however the other way around and your within your rights as regards the T&C and involve the (small claims,)courts if you so wish...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion
Is this true?

Yes i have turned up again for this.

I am on 10mb and I game alot on Battlefield 2142, and my partner uses MSN and Yahoo and some chatrooms, my ping then is about 70 or 80, without her using the net I drop to about 20-40.

Now your going to drop my upload on 10mb? let me tell you now NTL you do this and that £35 per month will be shoved so far up your **** you will be spitting my sacm from your nasal passages.

I expect at least 512k upload on 10mb and I will not pay more to you to get more you thieving robbing swines, your network is falling to pieces and your talking about 20mb?

Sort your network out and listen to the customers not your accountants.

Originally Posted by Bill C

Trust me i know nothing of this. But there again its the people at the coal face who are normally the last to know. It will make me consider my broadband supplier even if i work for them. I cannot afford to have my upload drop as i play games as well.

of course the NTL users can also use the T&C to get out of the contract, or even take NTL to small claims court for breach if they so wish (as is your right under consumer law).

and if this significant change were to find its way to the Virgin Media towers and become fact rather than rumour, then id assume theregister.co.uk and all the other broadband news agencys would be interested in the users thoughts and wishes.

i assume someone has dropped mike or tony ,perhaps one of the other lads there a note to look into this for a news report if its required for a nice topical cristmas scrooge story....

its also possible that the TW users could also make news for not being given the current higher NTL upload rate yet paying the same rates.

also the point about your average downloader NOT careing about it, that might be true, however thats ONLY
because they dont know the reasons.

if the main web news sites were to explain the fact the if your uploads rate go down your gaming suffers directly because of that reduction, im sure as hell that THEY WOULD CARE and kick up a stink and perhaps we might see better ratio offers in time as the complaints role in.
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ps.
it appears the ntl have moved the standard NTL T&C and tidyed up that page to give links pages.

the t&c was here in full
http://www.home.ntl.com/page/termsresidential
now its here
http://www.home.ntl.com/html/termsandconditions.html

the part your interested in is probably
"
20 CANCELLATION RIGHTS

20.1 You may cancel the Services without penalty in the following circumstances:-

1. if we increase our Charges you may cancel those Services in respect of which the Charges have increased by giving us one month’s notice in writing within 30 days of the earlier of:
   1. such price increase being notified to you under Condition 6.2; or
   2. the date of your first bill following such price increase, irrespective of whether the minimum period in respect of those Services has expired. If you cancel Services under this Condition, the increased Charges relating to those Services will not apply to you;
2. if we significantly reduce the content of the Services or make any significant change to the terms and conditions of this Agreement under Condition 26(iii), you may terminate this Agreement by giving us one month’s notice in writing within 30 days of such change irrespective of whether the minimum period in respect of such Services has expired. "

"
30 NOTICES

30.1 Notices given under this Agreement should be delivered by hand or by prepaid first class post or electronic mail either:-

1. to us: at the address on this Agreement or on the last invoice or to an alternative address notified to you;
2. to you: at the address in this Agreement or to an alternative address notified to us. Alternatively, if you take the Television Service or Internet Services we may deliver notices to you by sending them via the ntl Network so that they are displayed on your television or computer screen"

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pps
multi quote doesnt seem to work for me ?......
i have to go back and edit manuallly.