i didnt reboot router - i went to reboot router and STB but unfortunately my STB is now knackered. Great timing.
I plug it in and its making mad electric noises and I can set sparks! EVen if i leave it it reboots itself
an engineer is coming out on monday
i am now on dialup to check some email.
now without any TV

hopefully he comes early -due to come monday 12-6pm
i am out tonight and most of tomorrow so not too bad - could be worse!