Internet Tax To Fund The BBC!

[Jaymoss]

Well there is the article I posted that says it is Fixed and the 5G thing I also said when i posted the link to the article that does say Fixed


Broadband is fitted into 2 categories I believe maybe 3 with Starlink Fixed in with a cable and Mobile is well mobile so Mobile broadband by its very definition is not classed as Fixed surely

---------- Post added at 08:52 ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 ----------

iplayer also needs a log in so the app just opening does not mean you are digesting content. If in the unlikely case TVL get a warrant and find the iplayer app on the TV does not prove anything as would removing any internet connection the TV . Just turn up to court and so not let them do it without you being there

Originally Posted by damien c

That right there is the "£11 per device"

What world are you living in ?
Here on Earth we can have many devices per connection, so per connection does not equal per device, not even close.

[Carth]

Large offices would be paying £5k a month . . or telling everyone to work from home

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Paul

What world are you living in ?
Here on Earth we can have many devices per connection, so per connection does not equal per device, not even close.

Sorry I think we are getting crossed wires here and it's more than likely my fault


What I mean by device is something which can provide internet to multiple devices.

1 device = 1 modem/router

So a mobile phone can be a modem/router for multiple devices, a tablet with a sim slot can be a modem/router for multiple devices, 4G/5G Modem can obviously be used for multiple devices.

Normal home broadband is a modem/router for multiple devices.

Any device with a sim slot could and will be classed as a device capable of providing a data connection to multiple devices.


Now the whole "Fixed only" thing will change because once people realise it's only "Fixed" connections, they will cancel their BT, Sky, VM etc and move to "mobile" broadband which will then cause the £11 fee to be added to them.


This is the problem, with it and why it will cause riots because as I say who is going to pay such insane prices?

Businesses will more than likely get "bulk discount" because otherwise it's going to cost them thousands if not tens of thousands per month.


Going to be interesting to see how things fall though with this, going forward because it could be another nail in the coffin of Labour if they go with this approach.

Originally Posted by damien c

Sorry I think we are getting crossed wires here and it's more than likely my fault


What I mean by device is something which can provide internet to multiple devices.

1 device = 1 modem/router

So a mobile phone can be a modem/router for multiple devices, a tablet with a sim slot can be a modem/router for multiple devices, 4G/5G Modem can obviously be used for multiple devices.

Normal home broadband is a modem/router for multiple devices.

Any device with a sim slot could and will be classed as a device capable of providing a data connection to multiple devices.


Now the whole "Fixed only" thing will change because once people realise it's only "Fixed" connections, they will cancel their BT, Sky, VM etc and move to "mobile" broadband which will then cause the £11 fee to be added to them.


This is the problem, with it and why it will cause riots because as I say who is going to pay such insane prices?

Businesses will more than likely get "bulk discount" because otherwise it's going to cost them thousands if not tens of thousands per month.


Going to be interesting to see how things fall though with this, going forward because it could be another nail in the coffin of Labour if they go with this approach.

I think this is an unlikely scenario.

It has always been the case on this forum that we are over-represented by the sort of technically minded, flexible sort of people who are willing and able to make switches like this in order to get an extra bit of utility (or save a few ). But this just doesn’t reflect the attitudes of the overwhelming majority of the population, for whom setting up a home modem/router utilising 5G (and doing it well) is just a leap too far.

In the real world, 5G can’t compete with fibre for sustained download speeds, it can’t compete on cost and it can’t compete on convenience. Doubtless some people will do as you suggest but not nearly enough of them for it to be of concern. Especially as most households are presently paying for a TV licence at £180 a year, and the broadband tax is proposed to cost £132. If this happens it will be sold as a reduction in what we pay for the BBC.

[Jaymoss]

170meg consistent with 300+meg with 80 to 120 meg upload . Been using Lebara 5G mobile as my main internet over 6 months so not quite the case Paul

Think it is perfectly acceptable. Lebara image shows I have downloaded over 1TB per month the last 2 months. I have to rinse and repeat the Lebara £9.98 unlimited deal every 3 months



l