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Old Yesterday, 13:08   #46
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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i saw a little bit of what the court wanted us to see but i would prefer to see all of it and hear the sound from the dashcam
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

Here's some part of it

https://xcancel.com/suespeaksup/stat...805246005323#m
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i would like to examine the evidence not just accept that it is what they say it is
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

But the defendant accepted it - he pleaded guilty. Do you have actual grounds for thinking it might be something other than ‘they’ say it is or are you just making excuses for wanting to watch a video of people getting maimed?
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

I was under the impression* that pleading guilty (therefore saving time and money) led to a reduced sentence . . . makes you wonder if pleading not guilty would have got him Life with no parole . . . although 'life' is probably what he's ended up with really.

*no idea if that only applies to silly stuff like shoplifting, writing nasty stuff on social media, or being drunk in charge of an iPhone.
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But the defendant accepted it - he pleaded guilty. Do you have actual grounds for thinking it might be something other than ‘they’ say it is or are you just making excuses for wanting to watch a video of people getting maimed?
i would like to examine the facts, that's not unheard of is it.

pleading guilty is often just a mechanism for getting a lighter sentence or people are just bullied into it
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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i would like to examine the facts, that's not unheard of is it.

pleading guilty is often just a mechanism for getting a lighter sentence or people are just bullied into it
Funny that you didn’t ask where you could download witness statements then isn’t it.

If you actually wanted to satisfy yourself that everything is as reported, you’d be looking for all the evidence available, not just a grainy CCTV sequence of adults and children being deliberately run over.
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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

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Funny that you didn’t ask where you could download witness statements then isn’t it.

If you actually wanted to satisfy yourself that everything is as reported, you’d be looking for all the evidence available, not just a grainy CCTV sequence of adults and children being deliberately run over.
i was looking for information, you're clearly looking for an argument, I'll just ignore you until you cool off.

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Re: Car ploughs through Liverpool FC celebration crowd

I know what you were looking for.
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