Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

We'll have to wait and see, but it would be churlish not to recognise this as a good day. Hostages released, the bombing has stopped, and much-needed aid is about to flood into Gaza.

[Pierre]

The fact that one side is releasing live detainees and the other is returning bodies gets to the very core of this.

[thenry]

The bodies if ever found are proving difficult to return as those holding them hostage may have died themselves. SkyNews

[Sephiroth]

... and what was Infantini (FIFA President) doing there?

[thenry]

Qatar could have built and demolished a world cup. Qatar is at the table.

Originally Posted by noel43

Not really trumps plan most of it was proposed at the beginning of the year by france

Did France make it work ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The fact that one side is releasing live detainees and the other is returning bodies gets to the very core of this.

That one side has 28 bodies to return whilst the other side cannot return the 67,000 bodies it pulverised?

This should be a day to move on Pierre and for us all to be grateful that the remaining hostages have been released and the shelling of innocent residents has ended.

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Originally Posted by Paul

Did France make it work ?

Exactly, it's alright Sleepy Joe or France having a plan but if you can't implement it, it's just a Word doc.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That one side has 28 bodies to return whilst the other side cannot return the 67,000 bodies it pulverised?

This should be a day to move on Pierre and for us all to be grateful that the remaining hostages have been released and the shelling of innocent residents has ended.
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Hamas made the mistake of taking hostages after invading Israel and murdering 1200 people.

They didn't release the hostages and Gaza got pulverised.

At least I keep the balance. Hamas could have stopped the pulverisation at any time.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That one side has 28 bodies to return whilst the other side cannot return the 67,000 bodies it pulverised?

This should be a day to move on Pierre and for us all to be grateful that the remaining hostages have been released and the shelling of innocent residents has ended.

So naive.

67,000 ok well they’re Hamas numbers and will include combatants….but I’ll let it go.

Hostages are a very different thing. These are people, obviously unarmed and in your care for Christ’s sake.

To try to equate the two or have any kind of Whataboutary, is quite frankly disgusting.

Those hostages alive or dead, in the “care” of Hamas have been Ill treated, tortured, if female probably raped many times and then 28 of them executed in cold blood.

So no, I’m not “moving on” for your convenience.

My point stands.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hamas made the mistake of taking hostages after invading Israel and murdering 1200 people.

They didn't release the hostages and Gaza got pulverised.

At least I keep the balance. Hamas could have stopped the pulverisation at any time.

Israel could have got the hostages back more quickly if they'd chosen the path the hostage families wanted him to take. But Netanyahu sadly prioritised his stay in power above all else.

Only the USA could have stopped Netanyahu continuing to pound Gaza.Credit to Trump for being effective in doing this when Sleepy didn't.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Israel could have got the hostages back more quickly if they'd chosen the path the hostage families wanted him to take. But Netanyahu sadly prioritised his stay in power above all else.

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[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Israel could have got the hostages back more quickly if they'd chosen the path the hostage families wanted him to take. But Netanyahu sadly prioritised his stay in power above all else.

Only the USA could have stopped Netanyahu continuing to pound Gaza.Credit to Trump for being effective in doing this when Sleepy didn't.

You were careful not to mention what the path wanted by the families was.

So what did they demand of Netanyahu and when? It varied along the timeline.

I suggest everyone here think about their replies.
Make your points without handing out insults to members.

I prefer not to be handing out timeouts, or topic bans.