Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead

Looks like the suspect's dad is a police officer, saw the photos and turned him in.

Confirmed the suspect's name is Tyler Robinson.

[Dude111]

Thank goodness his father is not corrupt and did the right thing!!

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

Mostly that would be down to whether you engage with social media, and then even if you do, what sort of stuff you read. For me, I follow American politics and more broadly, some of the social issues Kirk talked about that resonate on this side of the pond (transgender issues being the main one).

My missus had never heard of him, but within an hour of his shooting both my daughters (older teens) had been downstairs because they saw him get shot on TikTok.

i'm not on any social media sites, this forum is my only online presence

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i'm not on any social media sites, this forum is my only online presence

This is the way

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i'm not on any social media sites, this forum is my only online presence

I'm pleased to advise that this post has been picked for demonstrating true Cable Forum loyalty and wins a star prize! You get to spend a night out in Salford with Mick and Mr K

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Until he was shot i had never heard of him

Same here.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think the world has bigger things to worry about than a cartoon show

Apparently South Park took the pee out of him recently, and the usual nutters are trying to blame the show for his assassination.

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Damien

Looks like the suspect's dad is a police officer, saw the photos and turned him in.

Confirmed the suspect's name is Tyler Robinson.

Yep looks like his dad and uncle spotted him and forced him to turn himself in.

The thing is America will not learn anything from this, there will be "talks" but nothing will happen, apart from the contrast in the public response.

There have been no riots, no buildings being burned down etc compared to the likes of what happened after George Floyd.

Now you have the mainstream media trying to label the shooter as a "Good kid" "boy scout" "what you would want your son to be like" and trying to say he must have "Mental health issues", then you hear about some of the inscriptions on the gun etc and well it's the typical far left lunatic language and a good example of why kids should not be allowed guns or access to their parents guns!

Then you see the left wing lunatics celebrating online, you have the BBC hosting someone who was practically laughing, Oxford Union's incoming president celebrating, and now there are rumours that some MP's were apparently heard laughing and celebrating the news of him being shot.

This whole world is a mess!!

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by damien c

Yep looks like his dad and uncle spotted him and forced him to turn himself in.

The thing is America will not learn anything from this, there will be "talks" but nothing will happen, apart from the contrast in the public response.

There have been no riots, no buildings being burned down etc compared to the likes of what happened after George Floyd.

Now you have the mainstream media trying to label the shooter as a "Good kid" "boy scout" "what you would want your son to be like" and trying to say he must have "Mental health issues", then you hear about some of the inscriptions on the gun etc and well it's the typical far left lunatic language and a good example of why kids should not be allowed guns or access to their parents guns!

Then you see the left wing lunatics celebrating online, you have the BBC hosting someone who was practically laughing, Oxford Union's incoming president celebrating, and now there are rumours that some MP's were apparently heard laughing and celebrating the news of him being shot.

This whole world is a mess!!

I've only heard of so called left wing people sympathise with his family, I've not even seen to many people using his own words against him for what's happened but we all need to grown up and move away from the footballification that's happened with politics, just because someone votes differently to you it doesn't mean you have to hate them or even think less of them, the ones people imo should shun are the extreme elements who seem to be getting all of the attention and only to the benefit of their particular agenda.


Oh and the whole writing on the bullet stuff sounds like complete bullshit to me btw

[thenry]

Sky News have now verified what appear to be school records posted in 2020 by his mother which show a 4.0 average - a very high score, akin to straight As in the UK.

"This boy is a genius," she added.

NBC reports that he is a third-year student in the electrical apprenticeship programme at Dixie Technical College in St George, Utah.

A spokesperson for Utah Valley University said he attended the university for one semester in 2021.

A family neighbour, Kristin Schwiermann, describes Robinson as "smart," "quiet," and said he "never caused any problems."

https://news.sky.com/story/all-we-kn...aught-13429276

Why throw it all away. So young too

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Oh and the whole writing on the bullet stuff sounds like complete bullshit to me btw

Yeah, doubtful, there seems to be some evidence around it.

After Robinson’s arrest, Cox said inscriptions on unfired gun casings recovered by investigators of Kirk’s killing contained overt references to the anti-fascist movement. One reportedly read: “Hey fascist! Catch!” Another purportedly read, “Oh, Bella ciao” – a reference to an Italian anti-fascist resistance song. A third reportedly said: “If you read this, you are gay, LMAO.”

Other casing inscriptions have been widely interpreted as references to gaming and online culture. One of those as relayed by Cox was “up arrow, right arrow and three down symbols”, which many have perceived as a reference to a sequence of controller inputs that release a bomb in the Helldivers II video game.

Another engraving reads, “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?”, which the New York Times suggested alludes to a phrase used for trolling in online role-play communities.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

just because someone votes differently to you it doesn't mean you have to hate them or even think less of them, the ones people imo should shun are the extreme elements who seem to be getting all of the attention

The left then……you know the nice ones…….

Originally Posted by Pierre

The left then……you know the nice ones…….

And the ones on the right, I don't know why you keep pretending political violence is one-sided when there have been ample attacks by right-wing extremists as well. On the same day Kirk was murdered, one of them shot children at a school: https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/1...orado-updates/

There was the attack by the Nazi that killed 8 people in Texas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_A..._mall_shooting

The 'great replacement theory' nutjob that killed 10 black people the year before; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

In this country, it's thankfully rarer to have any of these kinds of attacks - left or right - but we still had the murder of Jo Cox and the guy who drove a van into a Mosque in Finsbury Park.

There is a long history of far-right attacks.

As TheDaddy says, these people need to be shunned. It's not left v right but extremists vs us all.

Engraving bullets is not easy at all, and there isnt a lot of room to play with.

Its unlikely it was done by hand (if at all) - there are laser engravers, but not exactly commonly available.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Oh and the whole writing on the bullet stuff sounds like complete bullshit to me btw

Yes, that's been quietly retracted by the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...sQwXMNIWV35OFD

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Damien

And the ones on the right, I don't know why you keep pretending political violence is one-sided when there have been ample attacks by right-wing extremists as well. On the same day Kirk was murdered, one of them shot children at a school: https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/1...orado-updates/

There was the attack by the Nazi that killed 8 people in Texas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_A..._mall_shooting

The 'great replacement theory' nutjob that killed 10 black people the year before; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

In this country, it's thankfully rarer to have any of these kinds of attacks - left or right - but we still had the murder of Jo Cox and the guy who drove a van into a Mosque in Finsbury Park.

There is a long history of far-right attacks.

As TheDaddy says, these people need to be shunned. It's not left v right but extremists vs us all.

7th July 2005? Failed attempt 21st July 2005. Another planned attack was thwarted before then with a link to one of the 7/7 bombers,
Ross Parker 2001.
Serioza Lawskoski 2012
Those "nice" BLM protestors.

A trial is set to begin Monday for a man charged with murder in the July 2020 shooting death of an 8-year-old girl who was riding in an SUV near a weekslong protest at the site where police had fatally shot a Black man weeks earlier.

A key difference is whether the type of reaction to any killings. With Charlie Kirk, there is a widespread reaction from the left of saying along the lines of "he deserved it". Plenty of examples.
Link

According to the Telegraph, Mr Abaraonye posted a message on Instagram which read "Charlie Kirk got shot loool" - an elongated version of the phrase 'lol' which means 'laughing out loud'.
He is also said to have, external posted in a WhatsApp chat with fellow students, appearing to welcome the incident.

How many of the attacks you listed had that widespread type of reaction?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

And the ones on the right, I don't know why you keep pretending political violence is one-sided when there have been ample attacks by right-wing extremists as well. On the same day Kirk was murdered, one of them shot children at a school: https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/1...orado-updates/

There was the attack by the Nazi that killed 8 people in Texas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_A..._mall_shooting

The 'great replacement theory' nutjob that killed 10 black people the year before; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

In this country, it's thankfully rarer to have any of these kinds of attacks - left or right - but we still had the murder of Jo Cox and the guy who drove a van into a Mosque in Finsbury Park.

There is a long history of far-right attacks.

As TheDaddy says, these people need to be shunned. It's not left v right but extremists vs us all.

If I have some time I will, respond in depth

The difference is…..the left paint themselves as the nice people, on the right side of history, be nice, be kind, etc etc etc.

When it comes down to it, they are the most violent (antifa) and most authoritarian. They won’t engage in debate, hate anyone that disagrees with them, and ultimately kills those that challenges them.

The left are far more dangerous in my opinion.

Case in point, Kirk was willing to debate and talk, killed by a leftist, solely for that reason.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, that's been quietly retracted by the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...sQwXMNIWV35OFD

There’s nothing in that article that suggests the etching on the bullets is incorrect.

Post the specific parts that back up your assertion.