Online Safety Bill Etc

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I’ll take a virtual beer far from being against their terms it would appear ?

The articles say ;

You can’t use a VPN while watching a live event on Netflix or with an ad-supported experience.

Using a VPN to access Netflix will hide your region and only allow you to see TV shows and movies available to all regions globally.

So "Steaming of content on services such as Netflix which isn’t available in their home region." would be against their terms of service.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

They haven't said that they will do. If they decided to, I have no idea- which is why I was asking about the technicalities of doing so.

What hurdles do you envisage?

The biggest hurdle will be that they cannot force any company outside the uk to do what they want. If I was running a VPN company in lets say Iceland and someone from the UK Government told me I must set up age verification on my product I would tell them where to go as they have no power to make me do it. Now think about this, how many of the VPN,s providers being used in this country are based in this country. The Government is losing a war they created and they will lose. They have created the biggest uptake in VPN usage this country has ever seen and it is still increasing. I have helped many of my friends setup their VPN,s

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Paul

The articles say ;


So "Steaming of content on services such as Netflix which isn’t available in their home region." would be against their terms of service.

I read you can’t as ‘not technically possible’ I find it ironic that if the use is against their TOS that they provide support links to how it works and what happens when you use it ? But

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

The articles say ;


So "Steaming of content on services such as Netflix which isn’t available in their home region." would be against their terms of service.

Probably is, I mean who does read the Terms of Service?

I've used a VPN to access content in Australia, from some of their channels as they were showing Carabou Cup games that you couldn't watch here!

And Mrs Pierre like to watch Survivor Australia, I don't use for netflix though as I don't watch it on my Laptop or tablet.

you also need a VPN to watch UK stuff when you're on holiday.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

The biggest hurdle will be that they cannot force any company outside the uk to do what they want. If I was running a VPN company in lets say Iceland and someone from the UK Government told me I must set up age verification on my product I would tell them where to go as they have no power to make me do it. Now think about this, how many of the VPN,s providers being used in this country are based in this country. The Government is losing a war they created and they will lose. They have created the biggest uptake in VPN usage this country has ever seen and it is still increasing. I have helped many of my friends setup their VPN,s

If they decided to bring in age verification for VPN's I imagine that they'd treat those that don't comply in the same way that they say they will treat porn sites that refuse to comply ie ban UK companies from doing business with them and make the VPN site unavailable to those in the UK.

I suppose that a legitimate VPN could be used to access a proscribed VPN, but there wouldn't be much point

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If they decided to bring in age verification for VPN's I imagine that they'd treat those that don't comply in the same way that they say they will treat porn sites that refuse to comply ie ban UK companies from doing business with them and make the VPN site unavailable to those in the UK.

I suppose that a legitimate VPN could be used to access a proscribed VPN, but there wouldn't be much point

Do you fully understand the way VPN's work ?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Do you fully understand the way VPN's work ?

Do you need to ask that question ?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If they decided to bring in age verification for VPN's I imagine that they'd treat those that don't comply in the same way that they say they will treat porn sites that refuse to comply ie ban UK companies from doing business with them and make the VPN site unavailable to those in the UK.

Thats unlikely to be legal (or practical), as the UK has already found out with Apple.
Also, you dont need to buy a VPN, plenty of free ones about that you just directly download.

Plus you can set up your own if you want, the software to do so is freely available.
Same with proxy servers, you can (as I do) just make your own with freely available common software.

I really dont understand your motives here, its like you want us all to be under totalatarian state control, ask the North Koreans how good that is.

[ Oh, and I read yesterday that a spokeperson said there were no plans to control VPNs, just clueless people saying someone should ].

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paul

[ Oh, and I read yesterday that a spokeperson said there were no plans to control VPNs, just clueless people saying someone should ].

And there is the problem, clueless people jumping on the latest buzz word and talking as if they are the expert. Thats probably why the Online safety bill is so rubbish the people putting it together had no idea what they wanted and how to do it.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Do you need to ask that question ?

Just being helpful

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Thats probably why the Online safety bill is so rubbish the people putting it together had no idea what they wanted and how to do it.

Nailed it.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I have helped many of my friends setup their VPN,s

Are they difficult to set up, then? I’ve not tried it myself, but I was under the impression it was a straight forward process.

A per-device VPN app is extremely straightforward, although the terminology might give less confident users pause. I imagine setting one in the main home router to direct all traffic is a fair bit more involved.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Are they difficult to set up, then? I’ve not tried it myself, but I was under the impression it was a straight forward process.

Piece of piss, even a child could do it

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

A per-device VPN app is extremely straightforward, although the terminology might give less confident users pause. I imagine setting one in the main home router to direct all traffic is a fair bit more involved.

ASUS make it very very easy with the VPN Fusion functionality , you can even have the VPN only apply to specific devices rather than the entire LAN

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Are they difficult to set up, then? I’ve not tried it myself, but I was under the impression it was a straight forward process.

They are simple but some of my friends and family don't like messing with their Pc's and phones.