19-08-2025, 13:19
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
It's certainly causing a great deal of coverage & discussion today. It's unfortunate that it's taken this part of the Act to be implemented before the public have taken notice and put their views forward.
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LOL, they really do have no clue, thats like saying age check a kettle before you plug it in.
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Could they not require providers of VPN's to people in the UK to become registered users and only allow those over 18 to use them?? I can't think of any legitimate reason why children would need a VPN.
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19-08-2025, 14:28
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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I can't think of any legitimate reason why children would need a VPN.
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Ever heard of Privacy ? Thats the main reason VPNs exist, aside from that of course, VPNs are either on or off, they dont care who you are.
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19-08-2025, 15:37
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
It's certainly causing a great deal of coverage & discussion today. It's unfortunate that it's taken this part of the Act to be implemented before the public have taken notice and put their views forward.
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Could they not require providers of VPN's to people in the UK to become registered users and only allow those over 18 to use them?? I can't think of any legitimate reason why children would need a VPN.
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Richard, stop trying to extend the amount of 'not allowed' instead of seeing how ridiculous things are. Every time there's a valid (not illegal)work around to the problem, the answer isn't to then invalidate that work around to cause even more problems elsewhere.
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19-08-2025, 18:09
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Richard, stop trying to extend the amount of 'not allowed' instead of seeing how ridiculous things are. Every time there's a valid (not illegal)work around to the problem, the answer isn't to then invalidate that work around to cause even more problems elsewhere.
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This is what's been suggested by the Children's Commisioner. I'm interested to know how/if they could age verify VPN's.
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19-08-2025, 18:20
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Ditto, VM don’t ‘support’ VPNs but that just means that if you have an issue with one, VM won’t help you - fine!
The 'not supporting’ is sometimes misunderstood as meaning that they don’t allow or ban them. And considering that some VPN protocols run over https; I’m really not sure how they could even if they wanted to!
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Sorry l didn't make any comment about virgin supporting anything  let's be honest their support for anything is poor.
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19-08-2025, 18:36
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
It's certainly causing a great deal of coverage & discussion today. It's unfortunate that it's taken this part of the Act to be implemented before the public have taken notice and put their views forward.
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Could they not require providers of VPN's to people in the UK to become registered users and only allow those over 18 to use them?? I can't think of any legitimate reason why children would need a VPN.
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Steaming of content on services such as Netflix / Prime Video which isn’t available in their home region. Or even having a Netflix account based in the country eg Turkey (costs much less than the UK)
Making purchases/ downloading games from PSN store that are cheaper on countries such as Turkey
Making people who are VPN users register and is only available to those over eighteen allowed to use them ? What a moronic statement , why not just ban under eighteens from purchasing anything that can connect to the internet.
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20-08-2025, 12:59
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Steaming of content on services such as Netflix / Prime Video which isn’t available in their home region. Or even having a Netflix account based in the country eg Turkey (costs much less than the UK)
Making purchases/ downloading games from PSN store that are cheaper on countries such as Turkey
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None of those are legitimate.
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20-08-2025, 13:07
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None of those are legitimate.
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Yes they are , you might not like it but it’s perfectly legit otherwise sites like hotukdeals would advertise such things
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20-08-2025, 14:09
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
I suppose that depends on what you mean by "Legit".
Possibly not illegal, but I bet they are against Netflix's terms of service.
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20-08-2025, 17:42
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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I don't think that the idea is to ask children to stop using a VPN, but to take proactive steps to stop them.
The Children's Commissioner said today that people accessing porn in the UK had severely reduced, but that the use of VPN's had severely increased. As a result she is to recommend to the Government that age verification is extended to VPN's.
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I dont recall her saying that.
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Good luck putting Age verification on VPN's provided from outside the UK.
Richard
Please explain to me how this joke of a Government will force Age verification on a VPN provided from let's say Japan.
The view i have is that these Government advisers don't have a sodding clue about VPN's or how they are provided. They seem to think the Government can force any company they want be it in the UK or outside to do as they say. BTW the Government has withdrawn its request to apple to put a back door in there software so they could snoop on users data, Apple told them to sod off.
https://www.wsj.com/tech/u-s-officia...-data-ea74eda2
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20-08-2025, 18:50
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Good luck putting Age verification on VPN's provided from outside the UK.
Richard
Please explain to me how this joke of a Government will force Age verification on a VPN provided from let's say Japan.
The view i have is that these Government advisers don't have a sodding clue about VPN's or how they are provided. They seem to think the Government can force any company they want be it in the UK or outside to do as they say. BTW the Government has withdrawn its request to apple to put a back door in there software so they could snoop on users data, Apple told them to sod off.
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20-08-2025, 18:55
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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I suppose that depends on what you mean by "Legit".
Possibly not illegal, but I bet they are against Netflix's terms of service.
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I’ll take a virtual beer  far from being against their terms it would appear ?
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/119024
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/114701
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20-08-2025, 19:22
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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I was once told that to be a lawyer , you need a good memory, be too stupid to run a business, and live on a different planet mentally to normal people, not having a clue of how things run in the real world.thinking. this also describes MPs
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Kenneth Chenault (Chairman/CEO Amex), Lloyd Blankfein (CEO Goldman Sachs), Charlie Munger (Vice-Chair Berkshire Hathaway, David Rubenstein (co-founder and co-Chair Carlyle Group), and many others, may disagree with your characterisation...
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20-08-2025, 19:24
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Kenneth Chenault (Chairman/CEO Amex), Lloyd Blankfein (CEO Goldman Sachs), Charlie Munger (Vice-Chair Berkshire Hathaway, David Rubenstein (co-founder and co-Chair Carlyle Group), and many others, may disagree with your characterisation... |
Who are the many others? Please list every one so we can fact check and verify .....
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20-08-2025, 20:02
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Good luck putting Age verification on VPN's provided from outside the UK.
Richard
Please explain to me how this joke of a Government will force Age verification on a VPN provided from let's say Japan.
The view i have is that these Government advisers don't have a sodding clue about VPN's or how they are provided. They seem to think the Government can force any company they want be it in the UK or outside to do as they say. BTW the Government has withdrawn its request to apple to put a back door in there software so they could snoop on users data, Apple told them to sod off.
https://www.wsj.com/tech/u-s-officia...-data-ea74eda2 |
They haven't said that they will do. If they decided to, I have no idea- which is why I was asking about the technicalities of doing so.
What hurdles do you envisage?
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