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				To me, it always seems to be those that are smoking and drinking that attend food banks the most often, with their big dogs and electric bikes. 
			
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			21-10-2024, 13:26
			
			
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				You forgot the top-of-the-range mobile phone.   
			
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 they turn up in 4x4s and other expensive cars,and then load up with as much as they can   
 
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				I have a nasty feeling that small, personal import packages from the likes of Temu are going to get hammered with import taxes and VAT. Also vaping will get a massive "vice tax" dropped on it, whilst disposable vape devices will be banned. And those that consume alcohol and tobacco will get hammered yet again. 
			
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 A pouch of baccy is £30 at the newsagents ,the same pouch is £8 at the european shops[ smuggled in obviously ] ,pluss they sell any size of vape you want at a fraction of the normal price,it's rife around here the authorities can't keep ahead of the illegal trade.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-10-2024, 13:53
			
			
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				Bit of a huge generalisation there. 
			
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I's what I see every time I pass by one just before they open. No OAPs to be seen.
  
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				 ,pluss they sell any size of vape you want at a fraction of the normal price,it's rife around here the authorities can't keep ahead of the illegal trade. 
			
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 At present, anyone can sell vaping kit and fluids, I expect that to be addressed with a move to (paid) licencing. That'll keep the Trading Standards bods busy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-10-2024, 13:58
			
			
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				I's what I see every time I pass by one just before they open. No OAPs to be seen. 
 
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At present, anyone can sell vaping kit and fluids, I expect that to be addressed with a move to (paid) licencing. That'll keep the Trading Standards bods busy. 
			
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 The whole smoking and vaping taxes are a joke when you can buy the smuggled vesion practically anywhere,the government say  less people are smoking but they are just not smoking registered products.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-10-2024, 14:38
			
			
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				The whole smoking and vaping taxes are a joke when you can buy the smuggled vesion practically anywhere,the government say  less people are smoking but they are just not smoking registered products. 
			
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 Never has anything been stopped by banning it, it just moves to the black market. Life carries on, government miss out on tax revenue.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Never has anything been stopped by banning it, it just moves to the black market. Life carries on, government miss out on tax revenue. 
			
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 I have not paid UK tax on my smoking for over 3 years now. Thank god for a friend who drives to Europe and back every month in a truck   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-10-2024, 06:29
			
			
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				I have not paid UK tax on my smoking for over 3 years now. 
			
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			It’ll be interesting to see the results from these tax cuts. After all, we all saw how successful the decade of austerity was.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It’ll be interesting to see the results from these tax cuts. After all, we all saw how successful the decade of austerity was. 
			
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 we sure did millions of people paid not to work durin the covid pandemic thanks to fiscal prudence in the past
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yeah, it’s the same story every time—taxes go up, and they tell us it’s “for the greater good,” but it always feels like the average person just ends up paying more without seeing much in return.  
Last year, when they hiked up taxes again, I was already feeling the pinch, so I switched up a few things, including my vape setup. 
 
I actually started using  Crave Max Beast as my go-to—it’s been a good stress reliever without breaking the bank.  
			
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 Saving a few quid? Stop buying those silly disposable vapes then. Use a proper one with rechargeable batteries. Then only buying liquid and coils every so often. 
 
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				we sure did millions of people paid not to work durin the covid pandemic thanks to fiscal prudence in the past 
			
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 Yeah that’s right. Rishi only set it to last 4 months but when he got embarrassed by the fact that other European countries were doing it for 12+ months he extended it. Tories have a habit of doing that (Marcus Rashford and the school meals). 
 
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			It seems that Rach hasn’t yet grasped that an increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions will cost the public services substantially more to the extent that the net increase in resources she’s promised Wes Streeting for the NHS will be minimal. What is more, the inflation busting increase to the national minimum wage will make things even worse. 
And it is strange to note that although the government is making much of its stance that the budget will not hurt ‘ working people’ (not defined), she is increasing maximum bus fares from £2 to £3. Does she not realise that the ‘working classes’ are the biggest users of the bus?
 
The more we hear about the proposals that are expected to be announced in this forthcoming budget on Wednesday, the more bizarre and surreal it gets!
 
You wanted change? Well, this is what it looks like. High public spending, more borrowing, tax rises, carte blanche for maximum disruption by trade unions and nothing worthwhile to show for it. Same old Labour.
 
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			i think starmers idea of a working person is a man wearing a flat cap cycling to work with his snap tin in his bag working for 6 quid a week and going out for a brown ale on a friday night .
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				i think starmers idea of a working person is a man wearing a flat cap cycling to work with his snap tin in his bag working for 6 quid a week and going out for a brown ale on a friday night . 
			
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 Yet by some curious contortion of thought, he considers himself and his fellow MPs as ‘working class’! Hilarious.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			By working person he clearly means people who depend on a salaried income as opposed to shares or property income.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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