Here comes the tax rises

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

But shouldn't we be discussing the current Government's policies? I mean, Rosie Duffield's letter to the Prime Minister, really is a keeper.

Oh dear

we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

Aw Papa, I don't think our members would use diversion tactics. They are concerned about the Country not political point scoring. Those who voted Labour, well, this is their moment - surely they won't waste it by harping back for years?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Russ

It is, and by no means is this a competition. But nobody has ever, or ever could, sullied the office of the PM quite as impressively as bullshitting Boris.

(57 resignations under his ensure).

Was that MPs resigning or simply not seeking re-election for an election that they were likely to lose?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Was that MPs resigning or simply not seeking re-election for an election that they were likely to lose?

Resigning.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Russ

Resigning.

As MPs?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

Just doing what the Tory fanboys were doing during the last 14 year shitshow.

Or is it different for when Labour are in power?

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Originally Posted by nomadking

As MPs?

From government

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ

Just doing what the Tory fanboys were doing during the last 14 year shitshow.

Or is it different for when Labour are in power?

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From government

At least we agree you're supporting a shitshow

[Russ]

I’m not supporting anyone

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

At least we agree you're supporting a shitshow

So are you....

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I repaid the the gov by voting labour for the first time in my life,pick the id and the Tax out of that sushi

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

So are you....

that was the local council elections,i didn't vote labour or con in the general election

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

I mean, almost bankrupting the economy in the space of a few days takes some real beating.

A well used worn out trope, wheeled out feverishly by Labour and their supporters that don’t really know what actually happened.

https://thecritic.co.uk/no-liz-truss...h-the-economy/

Also, a trope not challenged by the Tories at the time, as it suited them so that they could oust Truss and install Sunak, as the pesky membership didn’t vote the correct way.

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Originally Posted by Russ

It’s amazing how many people seem to think 2 to 3 months is plenty enough time to judge a government trying to fix a mess caused by 14 years to “austerity” and corruption.

They’re not being judged on that…..yet.

They’re being judged on this:…….

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2374277.html

Labour will pledge to “turn the page on Tory sleaze” if it wins the next election

We will clean up politics, so that by the end of our first term people don’t just feel better off, they can see that politics is working for them, not for Westminster

Well millions of pensioners won’t feel better off.

They’re being judged because they came into office and were immediately found out to be everything they accused the other lot of being

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Originally Posted by Russ

But there's nothing wrong with stating the pointlessness of comparing one Prime Minister.

Absolutely correct, comparing Prime Ministers is completely pointless, but you keep doing it.

Boris isn’t here, calling back to him serves no purpose.

Starmer is PM, and he (and Labour) are not living up to their own hype.

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Originally Posted by Russ

I’m not supporting anyone

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck……………..it’s a duck.

[1andrew1]

To me, people voted for a competent, drama-free government and an end to corruption. It's not a great look to be seen to be taking so many freebies and this political misjudgement does not tick the competent box.

Whilst it's not the best of starts, Starmer has a big majority, time on his side and an opposition currently focused on electing its new leader.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So as someone who’s supposedly ‘brave brought’ to click Tory. Would you care to comment on Kemi Badenochs statement regarding maternity pay ?

She's out of order.


But as said on TV last night during a paper review.


Many women out there rely on it.


We need those people who don't need it to say so and not claim it.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Absolutely correct, comparing Prime Ministers is completely pointless, but you keep doing it.

Boris isn’t here, calling back to him serves no purpose.

Comparing a prime minister to previous prime ministers is an absolutely sensible thing to do. We benchmark broadband providers, energy providers etc so why not Prime Ministers?

What is is not so good is to resort to whataboutery to detract from analysis of a prime minister.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

She's out of order.


But as said on TV last night during a paper review.


Many women out there rely on it.


We need those people who don't need it to say so and not claim it.

Highly unlikely that people are going to say that they don’t need free money. So that would mean the government would need to decide and implement a limit at which new mothers wouldn’t qualify.

Now, just hang on a minute…..