Here comes the tax rises

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My issue is we have been duped into thinking it has to be Labour or Tory and to forget any other party.

Blame the electoral system. That is the only choice. Both the main parties love it.

We rejected any change it (as the Govt told us to) in the 2011 av referendum.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Twice?

Yeah, twice.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Makes you an absolute fair target for criticism.

How does my vote affect you in any way?

Originally Posted by Pierre

I may do……..might not .

Well, you wouldn’t want to be displaying more blatant hypocrisy now would you?

Jesus, both of you move on, two pages of your bickering is enough.

[Escapee]

The rules around accepting freebies need to be cleared up, perhaps the same rules should apply to all public servants.

I have been on a number of overseas trips with civil servants attending, and on every occasion they have been very wary of accepting any hospitality.

I have experienced instances where they have contacted their organisation to check if they are allowed to accept an invitation to go out for a meal in the evening, and I have also experienced instances in the US where I have gone out in the evening with the supplier for ribs or a steak etc, and the civil servant has declined to attend for fear of getting into trouble.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Escapee

The rules around accepting freebies need to be cleared up, perhaps the same rules should apply to all public servants.

I have been on a number of overseas trips with civil servants attending, and on every occasion they have been very wary of accepting any hospitality.

I have experienced instances where they have contacted their organisation to check if they are allowed to accept an invitation to go out for a meal in the evening, and I have also experienced instances in the US where I have gone out in the evening with the supplier for ribs or a steak etc, and the civil servant has declined to attend for fear of getting into trouble.

There's accepting the odd gift and there's being bought,this government of self service is up for sale.

[Pierre]

Tumbleweeds from the Labour fan boys………

Turns out Labour are just as nasty, just as corrupt, just as crony, just as bad at every measure than the Tory’s they thought themselves morally above.

I’d be embarrassed, I know they are, as there’s just silence.

All they’ve done is screw over pensioners, give massive ..no strings..pay rises to train drivers (so poorly paid to begin with) and doctors (always on the breadline).

While accepting thousands, and it wasn’t just the PM, in bungs for clothes, glasses, corporate boxes, luxury penthouses……

There’s the party of the people, for the people.

If I was a Labour “fan boy” on here, I would be so embarrassed, you’d find me in a corner rocking back and forth

[papa smurf]

Angela Rayner hires £68,000-a-year 'vanity photographer': Deputy PM is the first to have taxpayer-funded staffer to burnish her image - as sleaze controversy grows


'Are there any greater vanity projects than the Deputy Prime Minister with her thousands of pounds of free clothes, her luxury free holiday, and now her publicly paid photographer?'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ntroversy.html

[Russ]

So no worse than the Tories then

They should use this to bring in much stricter rules on donations IMO.

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Originally Posted by Escapee

The rules around accepting freebies need to be cleared up, perhaps the same rules should apply to all public servants.

I have been on a number of overseas trips with civil servants attending, and on every occasion they have been very wary of accepting any hospitality.

I have experienced instances where they have contacted their organisation to check if they are allowed to accept an invitation to go out for a meal in the evening, and I have also experienced instances in the US where I have gone out in the evening with the supplier for ribs or a steak etc, and the civil servant has declined to attend for fear of getting into trouble.

Yeah exactly. I don't see why MPs shouldn't be subject to the same rules. I don't mind a few things, as I said I can understand the PM being invited into corporate hospitality at sporting events such as Wimbledon but why on earth do they need dresses and glasses to be paid for them?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ

So no worse than the Tories then

If thats your defence i'd get your coat and go home.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

If thats your defence i'd get your coat and go home.

I didn’t say anything about defence. I’m just pointing out the Tory and anti-Labour fans were either strangely quiet when the Tories were at it or just said “well all politicians are corrupt”

These people are strange silent these days.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

I didn’t say anything about defence. I’m just pointing out the Tory and anti-Labour fans were either strangely quiet when the Tories were at it or just said “well all politicians are corrupt”

These people are strange silent these days.

They make you laugh, trying to compare the two parties as the same after 14 years of literally looting the country at everyone other than friends and donors expense and going after them on being in for slightly more time than that wet lettuce who caused the cost of living crisis to be significantly worse for most and then moaning that people are getting pay rises they've been denied for years under the guise of austerity and claiming its at the expense of pensioners whilst conveniently ignoring that the winter fuel payment did need reforming as cash millionaires get it the same as poor people and ignoring why it's even needed at all in the 6th wealthiest nation on Earth.

That notwithstanding there are some serious own goals from Labour, having to be dressed by someone else as a fully grown adult is plain embarrassing and they should scrap all these type of donations, the hospitality at events I kind of get, we can't really allow the PM to be in the stands at a football match but maybe a better solution would be if he wants to go to something he just go's without the need for someone to donate it.

Anyway, in summary, they're not the same, far from it and judging them to be the same when they've not even had a budget is either idiotic or just some prat with an agenda

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

and judging them to be the same when they've not even had a budget is either idiotic or just some prat with an agenda

Or more likely, both.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Anyway, in summary, they're not the same, far from it and judging them to be the same when they've not even had a budget is either idiotic or just some prat with an agenda

I wonder if the prat with an agenda is running the government, because whoever is running the government certainly doesn't have much sense for giving months of notice to business and savers that the budget is going to be harsh.

One of my former work colleagues is attempting to get his 25% tax free from his pension fund and isn't having much luck. I did the same a few months ago with the same company and it was very straight forward. I was surprised how quickly and easily it was to progress, but then again it was before panic had set in for those who have been planning their retirement. I obviously didn't predict the election happening so early in the year, but I wanted to get my tax free dosh before a Labour government was in power.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Escapee

I wonder if the prat with an agenda is running the government, because whoever is running the government certainly doesn't have much sense for giving months of notice to business and savers that the budget is going to be harsh.

One of my former work colleagues is attempting to get his 25% tax free from his pension fund and isn't having much luck. I did the same a few months ago with the same company and it was very straight forward. I was surprised how quickly and easily it was to progress, but then again it was before panic had set in for those who have been planning their retirement. I obviously didn't predict the election happening so early in the year, but I wanted to get my tax free dosh before a Labour government was in power.

do you suspect government interference ?