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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
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Thousands of pensioners might die of hypothermia but on the pluss side mick jagger won't get £200 
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10-09-2024, 17:20
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
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Perhaps before you pontificate further you could answer the following. What are the estimated excess deaths caused by austerity ? Cuts to public services etc ?
Sleep easy……
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10-09-2024, 18:07
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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This I more akin to them increasing your salary to £900 but taking away an annual bonus you got of £300 if we're making that comparison.
Anyway, I think Labour should delay it a year. This takes us past this 10% increase in energy bills and allows another year of triple lock to kick in.
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Not forgetting the savings we should have by then from GB Energy 
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10-09-2024, 19:09
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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10-09-2024, 19:23
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
And every one of those voting for pensioners to be killed can claim their £3500 heating allowance.
The sweet smell of hypocrisy.
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10-09-2024, 19:26
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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And every one of those voting for pensioners to be killed can claim their £3500 heating allowance.
The sweet smell of hypocrisy.
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Thats champagne socialists for you.
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10-09-2024, 19:37
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Thats champagne socialists for you.
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And Kemi Badenoch (and those Conservative MPs who voted for her in the 2022 Leadership Election)…
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kemi-baden...093446081.html
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She said: “There is a lot of dead weight in how we run government. I have people in my constituency telling me that they don’t need the winter fuel payments that we give them because they can afford it. Why do we not have a more sophisticated mechanism for means-testing?”
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10-09-2024, 19:37
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
Just to add a little reality to all this.
Remember that energy is cheaper this year (winter).
The Energy cap last winter (Oct-Dec) was £1834 and then £1928 (Jan-Mar).
This year its only £1717 (Oct-Dec) and predicted to be about £1740 (Jan-Mar).
So £117 cheaper for Oct-Dec this year, and around £188 cheaper in Jan-Mar.
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10-09-2024, 19:39
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Just to add a little reality to all this.
Remember that energy is cheaper this year (winter).
The Energy cap last winter (Oct-Dec) was £1834 and then £1928 (Jan-Mar).
This year its only £1717 (Oct-Dec) and predicted to be about £1740 (Jan-Mar).
So £117 cheaper for Oct-Dec this year, and around £188 cheaper in Jan-Mar.
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And the last State Pension rise was £900 in April 2024…
I don’t understand why they don’t delay it until they can find a way of targeting at those most in need (just ask HMRC for a file if those who have incomes of less than £nn,nnn, then match the payments on NI number).
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10-09-2024, 19:59
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Perhaps before you pontificate further you could answer the following. What are the estimated excess deaths caused by austerity ? Cuts to public services etc ?
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Don’t know, you tell us.
Not sure giving train drivers £50K+ saved too many lives.
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10-09-2024, 23:01
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
Can somebody help Rachel Reeves with her memory? She seems to have forgotten something she said she’d never forget.
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10-09-2024, 23:08
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
I couldn’t vote today as I was at the dentist…………
But if I wasn’t at the dentist I would definitely 100% have voted against the government, they’re so nasty.
I’m 100% for pensioners and when the time comes to increase taxes on your private pension my pledge to you is that I’ll be at the chiropodist……….
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10-09-2024, 23:09
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Today i am so glad i did not vote for the bunch of muppets in power now. I can sleep easy knowing that i have not contributed to the eventual deaths of pensioners this winter, i await the response from the labour supporters who believe that Labour have done well by voting in this cut. The train drivers will be loving all the extra money at the expense of the pensioners.
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I expect that the train drivers will only be loving it until the budget, then we will most likely be back to square one with them demanding more.
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11-09-2024, 00:14
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Don’t know, you tell us.
Not sure giving train drivers £50K+ saved too many lives.
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He is referring to the Tories freezing other benefits over the last decade. Working age benefits, child tax credits and so on have been reduced/frozen for a long time now. As well as making it harder for people to claim disability benefits.
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11-09-2024, 06:32
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Re: Here comes the tax rises
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Originally Posted by Damien
He is referring to the Tories freezing other benefits over the last decade. Working age benefits, child tax credits and so on have been reduced/frozen for a long time now. As well as making it harder for people to claim disability benefits.
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Benefits went up by the rate of inflation, as they always have done. It was the salaries of Ministers that were frozen.
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