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				You're doing it 'when warranted' though, are you? Rayner having a holiday is fine, it's not warranted criticism. 
			
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 Optics though….isn’t that the word.  The same week as Starmer gives a speech saying things are going to get worse.
 
A few weeks after pensioners are told they’ll have to freeze in the winter, she photographed having a great time……….
 
Like I say this time last year, or any year, if that was Sunak or any other leading Tory,  you’d have Mr K on here saying the same thing, backed up by the usual suspects.
 
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				You think Labour are bad, everything they do is bad. We get it. That's not especially interesting or insightful.
			
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 I do, just in the same way many, many more, hold the exact opposite view
 
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				It's just weird reasoning to do this because you're still angry that people slagged off the Tories. It's good to criticise the Government, I don't know why you spent so long of a different opinion.
			
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 It’s not because I’m angry.
 
I’m going to hold this government to the same standard as others on here held the last one……..that’s all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2024, 15:48
			
			
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				Optics though….isn’t that the word.  The same week as Starmer gives a speech saying things are going to get worse. 
 
A few weeks after pensioners are told they’ll have to freeze in the winter, she photographed having a great time………. 
 
Like I say this time last year, or any year, if that was Sunak or any other leading Tory,  you’d have Mr K on here saying the same thing, backed up by the usual suspects. 
 
 
 
 
I do, just in the same way many, many more, hold the exact opposite view 
 
 
It’s not because I’m angry. 
 
I’m going to hold this government to the same standard as others on here held the last one……..that’s all. 
			
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 Crisis, what crisis  
Note: I do realise that Callaghan didn't actually say it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2024, 16:02
			
			
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				I don't think attacking Rayner for going on holiday when Parliament is in recess is a valid criticism. 
			
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 Weird behaviour from the right-wing media. They would prefer politicians who are out partying during the Covid lockdown as oppose to when Parliament is in recess. 
 
Perhaps not in the same silly league as criticising someone for changing the pictures when they move house, but definitely a few-sandwiches-short-of-a- lunchbox mentality.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				From November, the total tax rate on profits made by energy firms in the UK is expected to rise to 78%.
			
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			It looks like I'm having some first hand experience of entrepreneurs leaving the UK. 
 
I had been in communication with a person who runs a company from the UK, with offices in a few locations in Europe and the USA. He had been very keen for me to undertake some work for his company which carries out product R&D and modification/manufacturing in the UK. He has a couple of guys working for him who are past retirement age and looking to finish later this year. He was very keen to know when I would be available to take on some work, he said he wanted my services full time but would be glad of a day or two a week if possible.  
 
I emailed him a few weeks ago as we agreed to let him know that the extended contract I was working on had come to an end, and that would free me up for a couple of days a week. I had a very brief response saying that the business was currently being restructured and he would let me know the situation when things have settled down. 
 
I mentioned this to the acquaintance who introduced us, and he says that the business is being located outside of the UK due to concerns about the new government. (His wife is an employee) 
 
Being nosy, I notice that his residential property has very recently appeared on an upmarket estate agent website.     
 
It looks like this guy and his business are off.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Optics though….isn’t that the word.  The same week as Starmer gives a speech saying things are going to get worse. 
 
A few weeks after pensioners are told they’ll have to freeze in the winter, she photographed having a great time………. 
 
Like I say this time last year, or any year, if that was Sunak or any other leading Tory,  you’d have Mr K on here saying the same thing, backed up by the usual suspects. 
 
 
 
 
I do, just in the same way many, many more, hold the exact opposite view 
 
 
It’s not because I’m angry. 
 
I’m going to hold this government to the same standard as others on here held the last one……..that’s all. 
			
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 People are allowed to have and enjoy their Summer holidays though. 
 
What's the issue really?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Looks like there is still some money for pensioners. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewlqxv0n1qo
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 That'll put it up to about £12k, getting close to the [frozen] tax free limit (£12,570).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 £300 loss this year  
talk about removing single occupant council tax relief £400 + loss [many pensioners are widowed]
 
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 You're expecting gas/electricity to rise by more than £400 ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				You're expecting gas/electricity to rise by more than £400 ? 
			
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 It will if that eco loony Milliband gets his way.
 
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			Scotland has dropped free school meals to all primary school pupils. 
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 That's down to starmer cutting the budget,starve the kids to give train drivers a 10K rise
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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