Here comes the tax rises

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Don't the welsh Doctors get a pay rise ?

Nothing to do with UK government, its the brilliant Welsh government whom have settled prior to England

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Most increases in public spending, automatically lead to extra money for Scotland and Wales.

But if they want to give them self's a pay rise or create more AMs they can . Given money but can do what they like

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Nothing to do with UK government, its the brilliant Welsh government whom have settled prior to England

I suppose that had nothing to do with it being Labour running Wales?
They came up with means testing the winter fuel allowance, pretty quickly. Almost as if it was planned before. Lucky that they had removed their manifesto the promise of not means testing it.
From 2019 manifesto.

We will maintain the ‘triple lock’ and
guarantee the Winter Fuel Payment,
free TV licences and free bus passes
as universal benefits.

[Taf]

The Scottish government has confirmed it will follow the UK government in no longer providing winter fuel payments to all pensioners.

Originally Posted by Taf

The Scottish government has confirmed it will follow the UK government in no longer providing winter fuel payments to all pensioners.

Link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9wnyp42kwo

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Taf

The Scottish government has confirmed it will follow the UK government in no longer providing winter fuel payments to all pensioners.

Thats bad news ,it gets really cold in Scotland

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Thats bad news ,it gets really cold in Scotland

Yes, but at least it's not Little England

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes, but at least it's not Little England

They're still old vulnerable people.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They're still old vulnerable people.

Whose triple lock pension increase will more than cover the fuel allowance this year. Vulnerable old people are covered by pension credit, and will still get the fuel allowance aswell.

Rich pensioners in large mostly empty houses are screwing this country big time. Its time to give something back.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Whose triple lock pension increase will more than cover the fuel allowance this year. Vulnerable old people are covered by pension credit, and will still get the fuel allowance aswell.

Rich pensioners in large mostly empty houses are screwing this country big time. Its time to give something back.

You've got the worst case of pensioner envy i've ever come across,how is a pensioner in a mostly empty house screwing the country.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Thats bad news ,it gets really cold in Scotland

We're hardened to it unlike you southern softies.

Less money for fags, booze and deep fried Mars bars though.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Vulnerable old people are covered by pension credit, and will still get the fuel allowance aswell.

That’s just a lie.

Pension credit only tops up anyone to a maximum pension of £11,344, so anyone with a pension income of say £11,500 would not qualify for pension credit or the heating allowance.

Unless you think £11,500 a year, is loads of money.

Labour is just the party that hates pensioners, they don’t rely on their vote, so would rather just kill them off.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Pierre

That’s just a lie.

Pension credit only tops up anyone to a maximum pension of £11,344, so anyone with a pension income of say £11,500 would not qualify for pension credit or the heating allowance.

Unless you think £11,500 a year, is loads of money.

Labour is just the party that hates pensioners, they don’t rely on their vote, so would rather just kill them off.

I got £6,500 per year as a full-time carer

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

That’s just a lie.

Pension credit only tops up anyone to a maximum pension of £11,344, so anyone with a pension income of say £11,500 would not qualify for pension credit or the heating allowance.

Unless you think £11,500 a year, is loads of money.

Labour is just the party that hates pensioners, they don’t rely on their vote, so would rather just kill them off.

The last Govts decision to party, instead of deal decisively with Covid , killed many thousands of pensioners, so you're talking crap again.

£200 isn't won't help with anyone's fuel bills, but giving it to those that don't need it is daft. It needs to be targeted and increased for those that need it.

The young of this country don't have a hope of a home or any sort of decent pension. Yet they are expected to pay taxes to support current pensioners for benefits theyll never get themselves.

A rebalancing is needed to give the young some sort of hope. Otherwise they'll wisely go elsewhere , and you'll be reliant on those immigrants to wipe your backside if they can be bothered.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I got £6,500 per year as a full-time carer

Equally as bad, Carers allowance (I assume that’s what you’re referring to, and not that you were employed as a carer) is laughable, and don’t expect Labour to improve it.

I don’t know your circumstances, nor do I want to. But as bad as that payment you received was, you’re not seriously telling me that you think the state pension is a lot of money.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

The last Govts decision to party, instead of deal decisively with Covid , killed many thousands of pensioners, so you're talking crap again.

I’m talking about this government.

£200 isn't won't help with anyone's fuel bills

That’s like saying to a homeless person, £50 won’t get you a room for the night, so there’s no point giving it to you.

When that £50 could really have been useful to him.

but giving it to those that don't need it is daft. It needs to be targeted and increased for those that need it.

you saying a pensioner on £11,500 pension ……£220 a week….doesn’t need it?

Typical fuel bill for 1/2 bed flat is around £1,50, probably more ..at least 10% of your income.

But Mr K reckons you don’t need it.

The young of this country don't have a hope of a home or any sort of decent pension. Yet they are expected to pay taxes to support current pensioners for benefits theyll never get themselves.

Well, there’s a caring socialist if ever you saw one.

A rebalancing is needed to give the young some sort of hope. Otherwise they'll wisely go elsewhere

They’ll probably leave with all the millionaires that are going, because they can see that the U.K. is a basket case and Labour are going to try and better the Tories and try and ruin the country in 5 years not 14.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I don’t know your circumstances, nor do I want to. But as bad as that payment you received was, you’re not seriously telling me that you think the state pension is a lot of money.

Ideally, we could make the pension bigger but it went up £900 this year. How much more do you think it's realistic to expect to increase? Next year it'll be around £400.

It increases more than wages and more than any other benefit - most of which have been cut relative to inflation over the past decade. Longer term it's not sustainable if the state pension keeps outgrowing earnings. I think we probably need to look at doing something about the triple-lock when we reach parity with the average pension of some of the EU nations.