Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
25-09-2023, 22:44
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
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Maybe, but they'll have to be pretty certain of a conviction for the CPS to decide to prosecute. Certainly, it's more likely as more people come forward.
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They have to.
They successfully charged Rolf Harris, and Stuart Hall. I don’t know the details of those cases but they must have been “historical” allegations, but still were able to gain two convictions, in crimes much older than Brand’s.
So I would expect if there is a case against, he would face charges.
If not, you would have to question this whole episode.
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26-09-2023, 07:52
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
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They have to.
They successfully charged Rolf Harris, and Stuart Hall. I don’t know the details of those cases but they must have been “historical” allegations, but still were able to gain two convictions, in crimes much older than Brand’s.
So I would expect if there is a case against, he would face charges.
If not, you would have to question this whole episode.
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I don't know how much evidence they have but certainly, the more people that come forward, the more likely they have a case.
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26-09-2023, 09:17
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
Considering we’ve had one recent major conviction on circumstantial evidence the likelihood is now - and in numbers - there’s more confidence in the likelihood of a conviction.
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26-09-2023, 10:03
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
As I think Chris said it'll be about constructing a similar pattern from several independent women. One accusor's word against the accused might not be beyond a reasonable doubt.
Several accusors, unknown to each other, with similar stories/details, may push it beyond a reasonable doubt.
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26-09-2023, 10:49
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
If he did rape/sexually assault a number of women in the period being discussed and there is now not enough evidence to prosecute, should these women remain silent?
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26-09-2023, 12:22
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
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If he did rape/sexually assault a number of women in the period being discussed and there is now not enough evidence to prosecute, should these women remain silent?
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No - absent a criminal prosecution the laws of defamation exist to restrain egregious lies and give the one accused some remedy. But those who allege things against Brand can keep talking, and the newspapers can keep printing, as long as they’re confident they can meet the lower burden of proof required in a civil court (the balance of probabilities, rather than beyond reasonable doubt). Russel Brand is not without means and can take legal action to silence them if he chooses. I suspect he won’t.
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26-09-2023, 20:50
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
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Russel Brand is not without means and can take legal action to silence them if he chooses. I suspect he won’t.
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Without making a judgement on innocence.
I think Brand will be advised to not pursue libel, as that would invite more scrutiny. Whereas, there’s a good chance this will soon run out of oxygen and with his loyal following he will be free to carry on.
With allegations, staying as allegations and not going further, it will soon be yesterdays news.
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27-09-2023, 17:13
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
To hell with Brand. A nasty piece of self-centred work who is getting his come-uppance, imo.
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27-09-2023, 17:45
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Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
GB News could uncancel him with their soon to become available hosting position.
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