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Hugh 16-09-2023 17:08

Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66831593

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Comedian and actor Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assaults and emotional abuse during a seven-year period at the height of his fame.

The allegations were made as part of a joint investigation by the Sunday Times and Channel 4 Dispatches.

Four women are alleging sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013.

Brand has denied the allegations and said his relationships have been "always consensual".

At the time of the alleged assaults, Brand was a presenter for BBC Radio 2, Channel 4, and an actor in Hollywood films.

Other claims made as part of the investigation include allegations about Brand's controlling, abusive and predatory behaviour.

The investigation has been published on the Sunday Times website, while the Dispatches documentary, Russell Brand - In Plain Sight, will air at 21:00 BST on Saturday on Channel 4.

On Friday, Russell Brand released a video in which he denied "serious criminal allegations" he said were about to be made against him.

The actor and comedian said he had received letters from a TV company and newspaper, containing "a litany" of "aggressive attacks".

Damien 16-09-2023 17:45

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
In a horrible story, there are some even more sickening parts:

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As her taxi approached Russell Brand’s home, Alice remembers the driver begging her not to go inside. Recognising the destination, he had started to ask questions. Alice admitted she was 16 and still in school.

She says the driver replied that his daughter was the same age and entreated Alice: “Please, I’m asking you not to go in there, you could be my little girl, and I would want someone to do this for her.” He offered to take her home without charge, but Alice insisted she was fine. “He had just such a sad look in his eyes,” she recalls.

Alice, whose name we have changed to protect her identity, now realises that she wasn’t fine. During a relationship that lasted for about three months when Brand was a BBC radio presenter, she says that he referred to her as “the child” and alleges that he became increasingly controlling, and then emotionally and sexually abusive.

Brand, then 30, sent a car to her secondary school to take her out of lessons and to his home, she says, and asked her to save his name in her phone as “Carly” to deceive her parents. Brand’s management knew that he had a teenage girlfriend and advised him not to be seen with her in public, she says. Alice alleges that Brand once forced his penis down her throat, making her choke, and that after trying to push him off he only stopped after she hit him in the stomach. She says she was visibly upset after the incident.
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In May 2007, Brand called Jimmy Savile, who suggested the pair could meet if Brand brought along a sister. Brand doesn’t have a sister, so instead offered to bring a female employee — agreeing, on Savile’s request, that she should be naked.

“I’ve got a personal assistant,” he said. “And part of her job description is that anyone I demand she greet, meet, massages, she has to do it. She’s very attractive, Jimmy.” This was four years before Savile’s death and five years before details of the Jim’ll Fix It presenter’s crimes were exposed.


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GB News seem to be willing to defend him: https://twitter.com/beverleyturner/s...37915481858403

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You are being attacked @rustyrockets

Establishment media don't know what to do with the fact that you have 6million subscribers & generate autonomous, knowing and original content.

You are welcome on my @GBNEWS show anytime.

We are mainstream media. But we are not Establishment media. There's a difference.

Keep going. This proves you are winning. You're a hero. ❤️

Chris 16-09-2023 19:05

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
There’s some harrowing stuff in there. I’ll be watching Dispatches tonight to see what else they’ve got. What I want to know now is, where does it go from here? Do they have actionable material that could result in criminal proceedings?

nomadking 16-09-2023 19:24

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36160135)
In a horrible story, there are some even more sickening parts:





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GB News seem to be willing to defend him: https://twitter.com/beverleyturner/s...37915481858403

So when did any detail of any ALLEGATIONS, come out, in relation to any comments? Look at the timings. The comment was before 8am, the "details" a lot later.

Paul 16-09-2023 19:24

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
Do they have actual proof or evidence.
Atm, it appears to be just "accused" or "alleged".
Despite how some would like it, we still work on innocent until proven guilty.

Jaymoss 16-09-2023 19:52

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36160140)
Do they have actual proof or evidence.
Atm, it appears to be just "accused" or "alleged".
Despite how some would like it, we still work on innocent until proven guilty.

100% I will have no opinion until solid evidence

nomadking 16-09-2023 20:20

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36160141)
100% I will have no opinion until solid evidence

No evidence required these days, along with the constant misuse of language and terms.

Chris 16-09-2023 21:44

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
As of right now (about 45 minutes through the documentary) they have detailed descriptions of lurid sexual behaviour that’s distasteful, controlling and coercive but probably not actually illegal (though in certain specific circumstances sex between an adult and a child aged 16 or 17 actually is illegal), plus at least one allegation of rape, in LA, which was reported to a support service but not pursued with the police.

They haven’t claimed his behaviour is criminal except where his victim has done. In that case I suspect they know there’s little chance of Brand suing them because there is contemporaneous evidence, held by the rape support service the woman went to. They have alleged he breached his contract with Big Brother by having sex with multiple members of the production team but that’s a civil matter.

I find it highly compelling that all these women, who don’t know each other, are all independently describing their encounters with Brand in the same terms. Channel 4 and the Times have built a compelling picture of outrageous, predatory behaviour that any woman coming into his orbit needs to be aware of.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36160144)
No evidence required these days, along with the constant misuse of language and terms.

In ant criminal or civil court, independent witnesses consistently describing the same pattern of behaviour is evidence.

jfman 16-09-2023 21:56

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status...891261952?s=61

Ahead of his time.

For those not on Twitter it’s Trump from 2014.

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.@katyperry Katy, what the hell were you thinking when you married loser Russell Brand. There is a guy who has got nothing going, a waste!

Chris 16-09-2023 22:12

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
And an hour and 10 minutes in, an allegation of sexual assault with witnesses outside the building hearing screams. Again, maybe it’ll now go to a criminal trial, maybe it won’t. But the chances of Brand taking Channel 4 to court to sue them are minuscule. There’s little doubt that Dispatches could prove, on the balance of probabilities, that these things happened.

Ms NTL 17-09-2023 00:35

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
Who has more authority than Supreme Justice Rachel Riley? She "hanged" Greenwood and Antony, and now it is Brand's turn. Who needs courts and trials, when we have Rachel and the media to pass judgments....

Pierre 17-09-2023 09:00

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
If has done anything illegal, he should be charged.

It’s difficult to de-platform him, as he uses an independent media outlet for his podcast.

I haven’t watched the expose yet, so can’t really comment on it. Though reading through the comments I find the Saville connection a bit far fetched……..but who knows?!

Hugh 17-09-2023 10:04

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36160155)
If has done anything illegal, he should be charged.

It’s difficult to de-platform him, as he uses an independent media outlet for his podcast.

I haven’t watched the expose yet, so can’t really comment on it. Though reading through the comments I find the Saville connection a bit far fetched……..but who knows?!

The Dispatches programme played a recording of the phone call between Saville and Brand from Brand’s radio show)

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In resurfaced audio from a BBC Radio 2 interview, Russell Brand appeared to offered his personal assistant to massage Jimmy Savile.

The disgraced TV presenter says the comedian can meet him if he brings his sister with him, to which Brand replies: “I have got a personal assistant... part of her job description is that anyone I demand she greet, meet, massages, she has to do it.”

Savile told Brand he would “prefer her to wear nothing” before Brand replied “that will not be a problem.”

The audio was played in a Channel 4 Dispatches programme on Saturday (16 September).
The recording is below.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/cul...-b2412999.html

TheDaddy 17-09-2023 11:47

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36160154)
Who has more authority than Supreme Justice Rachel Riley? She "hanged" Greenwood and Antony, and now it is Brand's turn. Who needs courts and trials, when we have Rachel and the media to pass judgments....

Not a fan of her tbh, prefer Carol, my own view for what little it's worth is that most of this stuff probably happened and it could have been avoided if someone in authority just told him no once in a while early on

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36160157)
The Dispatches programme played a recording of the phone call between Saville and Brand from Brand’s radio show)



The recording is below.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/cul...-b2412999.html

Exactly, the connection is far fetched

Hugh 17-09-2023 12:16

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36160154)
Who has more authority than Supreme Justice Rachel Riley? She "hanged" Greenwood and Antony, and now it is Brand's turn. Who needs courts and trials, when we have Rachel and the media to pass judgments....

Just looked at Riley’s timeline, and can’t see what you mean?

She has posted four likes, and two posts/replies in the subject, none of which seem reflect what you posit?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1694949298

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1694949298

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1694949446


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