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Re: 20mph is just the start.
Voting out the idiots who imposed it seems the only way it will get removed.
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23-09-2023, 01:44
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Bang goes any hope of expanded tourism in Wales. They are bigger fools than the Royal Mail.
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And most of the sheeple wont try to challenge it!!
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24-09-2023, 13:55
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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Why, when 220,000 have NOT signed it?
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Last time I checked 400,000 or so signed on the other side 500 signed counter one in favour  given your suggestion most people by a country mile are against it 
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Voting out the idiots who imposed it seems the only way it will get removed.
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That will never happen, the only way would be Wales to vote Tory , the other main parties will jump at the chance to get on labours gravy train , both have in the past, plaid have loose agreement to support them , they are short of a majority. Be careful what you vote for.
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24-09-2023, 14:28
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
The count is still rising, with a lot from the Labour heartlands.
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24-09-2023, 17:27
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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The count is still rising, with a lot from the Labour heartlands.
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Sorry any information on what the color stands for. Anyway off out off 
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24-09-2023, 18:08
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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Last time I checked 400,000 or so signed on the other side 500 signed counter one in favour given your suggestion most people by a country mile are against it
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That will never happen, the only way would be Wales to vote Tory , the other main parties will jump at the chance to get on labours gravy train , both have in the past, plaid have loose agreement to support them , they are short of a majority. Be careful what you vote for. |
Actually the best way to do it in the electoral system used in Wales is to have a ‘no to 20mph’ party stand for the regional list only. No point contesting the constituencies because these are just first-past-the-post. But if sufficient people vote ‘No to 20’ on their regional list ballot then they have a chance. Half the seats in the Senedd are allocated from the regional list.
Let’s face it the Senedd carries on like a jumped up town council so you might as well go for a good old fashioned residents committee approach. Take the place over, get the legislation repealed, then resign en masse. Leave them a mess to sort out and it’ll serve them right.
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24-09-2023, 18:36
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
My wife took a taxi in Cardiff on Thursday, from our house in Roath to Ely. The journey took over an hour, the taxi driver said it had been gridlocked all week. He also said they are getting lots of complaints about the increase in fares due to the time journeys are taking.
Never mind, looking on the bright side at our other house, at least the most dangerous risk to pedestrians, which are the off-road motorbikes without number plates and many without helmets travelling up and down the street at speeds exceeding 40mph will now be limited to 20mph. That will save the police a job they haven't bothered doing.
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25-09-2023, 09:09
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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The darker the hue, the more people have signed. If you click on each area, you can see the actual figures.
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The journey took over an hour, the taxi driver said it had been gridlocked all week
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That would take the route past our home near Tesco Extra. And yes, it's always gridlocked due to the new 20mph past the Uni.
As for slowing down the Ely drug runners, we all know you said that tongue-in-cheek. Since those 2 lads crashed and died, the police are terrified of being anywhere near an illegal bike being used illegally.
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25-09-2023, 09:45
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
My wife was talking to her cousin and related how militant cyclist groups (elected? I don't know) had got the estate roads blocked so you can't drive around anymore at all. Other roads now jammed, 20mph a luxury.
And didn't the WA say that the 20mph could be just the start?
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25-09-2023, 10:04
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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And didn't the WA say that the 20mph could be just the start?
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40s dropped to 30 all over the place already. They will be "looking at other speed limits" too. 60 to 40 too on National Speed Limit country roads?
I read their transport strategy bumpf, and it goes on-and-on about pavement parking being fineable with the money being collected and kept by local councils. It also talks about Pay-per-Mile tariffs.
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25-09-2023, 12:07
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25-09-2023, 12:14
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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25-09-2023, 12:19
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25-09-2023, 12:23
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25-09-2023, 12:50
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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Voting out the idiots who imposed it seems the only way it will get removed.
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No way will the Welsh Tories repeal this. The stats to show it’s “reducing deaths” on the road will be bandied about too much.
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