Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women

[jfman]

There’s an entertaining point in his defence video where if you look carefully there’s a cut before the word “consensual”. Presumably to edit out the word “mostly”.

[Pierre]

Well, it’s unlikely he’ll face criminal proceedings. Unless his accusers make official complaints to the police and there is an investigation, and actual evidence of his sexual attacks is found.

It’s unlikely he will be cancelled, or remove himself from broadcasting for the sake of his “mental health”. Because he is independent and cannot be silenced. If he wishes he can refute all this via his channel.

Given the nature of all this, it will degenerate into he said, she said allegations, and nothing happens.

……….so nothing happens. Yeah he’ll be smeared and probably not asked on as a guest on some tv shows. But that’s all.

It won’t be career ending for Brand as he doesn’t rely on the MSM or establishment outlets for his career. It may even increase his numbers.

Personally, I’ve never liked him. I have a passing interest about whether this is a MSM hit piece for some reason, but given what I have said above, if it is, I don’t understand the reasoning behind it.

And if it is a good faith investigative journalism piece, I would expect legal actions to follow, otherwise, what’s the point?

Can you imagine, looking back, if there was a Saville expose, while he was alive …..…..and nothing happened afterwards?

If he has done what he is accused of……….there has to be an investigation……………there has to be.

If his accusers refuse to be part of that, then we draw our own conclusions.

Originally Posted by Pierre

And if it is a good faith investigative journalism piece, I would expect legal actions to follow, otherwise, what’s the point?

Can you imagine, looking back, if there was a Saville expose, while he was alive …..…..and nothing happened afterwards?

If he has done what he is accused of……….there has to be an investigation……………there has to be.

If his accusers refuse to be part of that, then we draw our own conclusions.

Well, the point would be to expose him. The newspapers can't bring criminal cases but there is still a public interest in reporting the story so long as they're confident they can stand it up if he sues them.

What happens now probably depends on more people coming forward. You're not going to get a smoking gun bit of evidence so any realistic criminal investigation will require loads of independent testimonies. At the moment The Times has several women plus a text message from Brand saying he was sorry, but that last one occurred in the United States so the Met probably can't use that.

[ianch99]

There is some curious defending of Brand from some of the GBNews brigade, I guess to defend their own man (Wootton) in some bizarre way

The Times has said they have more allegations and are currently investigating them.

Originally Posted by Damien

The Times has said they have more allegations and are currently investigating them.

Dispatches flashed an email address at the end of the programme on Saturday night. It’s pretty clear the journalists running this have taken it as far as they can with the information gathered so far and are now hoping for a sort of ‘me too’ response in order to continue.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

The Times has said they have more allegations and are currently investigating them.

I thought that was the police’s job.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I thought that was the police’s job.

The Met Police have said their in contact with The Times and Channel 4 and I assume the evidence is shared with them.

But the newspapers are also entitled to investigate accusations against public figures. They just have to make sure what they print is watertight.

[Batuo]

Brand retold an old tale: The Pied Piper of Hamelin. This tale has been retold thousands of times over the years. The best retelling was a famous person whom the BBC, Hospitals and other Charity Organisations followed the Pied Piper and gave permission to do what he wanted. They refused every complaint made against this Pied Piper's misogyny and abusive character person. Of course, it had to do with Millions of Pounds they would stop making if the complaint was upheld. These Organisations became wealthy. He died a happy man with a BIG CIGAR between his lips and was buried with it inside his coffin. I wonder who presented him with the BIG Cigar and what colour the cigar was. Now we see another Pied Piper who has a company selling pipes. The company is called Brand, and the tin he packaged the pipes is not of good quality material Rus, sell it onward, if you can, very quickly. Has anyone purchased his pipe and smoked it? I wonder?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-6...ost_type=share

Met Police confirms report of alleged sexual assault from 2003

We've just received an update from London's Metropolitan Police.

A spokesperson for the Met said: “We are aware of reporting by The Sunday Times and Channel 4's Dispatches about allegations of sexual offences.

“On Sunday, 17 September, the Met received a report of a sexual assault which was alleged to have taken place in Soho in central London in 2003. Officers are in contact with the woman and will be providing her with support.

“We first spoke with The Sunday Times on Saturday, 16 September and have since made further approaches to The Sunday Times and Channel 4 to ensure that anyone who believes they have been the victim of a sexual offence is aware of how to report this to the police.

“We continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence, no matter how long ago it was, to contact us.”

This is not one of the alleged offences previously referred to by the Dispatches/Times investigation.

This is a risk for Brand. Women don't go to the police because it's their word against his and their worried, but if a slew of allegations come in after they see they're not alone then the police might build a case.

On Sunday, 17 September, the Met received a report of a sexual assault which was alleged to have taken place in Soho in central London in 2003. Officers are in contact with the woman and will be providing her with support.

I am somewhat curious about this, what "Support" do you provide 20 years later ?

It’s probably just the standard statement but I guess they offer the normal support they do to people who go to them with such allegations

Originally Posted by Paul

I am somewhat curious about this, what "Support" do you provide 20 years later ?

Having to re-tell traumatic events can trigger PTSD - perhaps the support is for this (i believe the Met (and other Forces) have specially trained Officers for this).

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s difficult to de-platform him, as he uses an independent media outlet for his podcast.

His live shows aren't proceeding, Channel 4 has removed his old content from its on-demand service and YouTube has demonetised him.