BBC Presenter Huw Edwards Suspended

[Russ]

MPs are a different subject for me. I can’t stand any of them, I’ve never met an honest one and if they wear a blue rosette then in my eyes they can do no right regardless. Most likely because they’re incapable of it.

Tax avoidance schemes, yes of course they’re legal. Immoral? Yep. Are Tory MPs hypocrites for using them? Absolutely 100% they are.


Huw Edwards - what he did was it immoral? Whilst keeping in mind that it’s subjective word I’d say yes it is but he broke no laws. I’m not suggesting it’s ok on that basis and I wouldn’t agree with anyone who said it was.

I’d put pop stars and comedians in the same bracket.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well as has been said, no more to be gained from this discussion. Maggy never answered the question.

But I’ll be keeping the receipts from this discussion as it seems everything is OK on here as long as it’s legal.

Just so the next time some one is angry and attacks the morality of a Tory MP, Pop star or comedian that squirrels away millions in perfectly “legal” tax avoidance schemes.

Or when a Prime Minister’s wife avoids up to £20m in tax with non-dom status. “Legally”paying £30,000 a year to keep the status.

Or MPs, of all colours, expensing a new kitchen.


So until next time.

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

So sorry for your loss

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

Hope you are getting all the support you need Maggy. My love to you and your family at this sad time. <<hugs>>

Originally Posted by joglynne

Hope you are getting all the support you need Maggy. My love to you and your family at this sad time. <<hugs>>

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

I am so sorry to hear this. My mother died last week so I understand some of what you are going through. Take care ...

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

Originally Posted by ianch99

I am so sorry to hear this. My mother died last week so I understand some of what you are going through. Take care ...

My condolences to you both. Remember them in their best times.

[Sephiroth]

@Maggy

Sincere condolences.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

Originally Posted by ianch99

I am so sorry to hear this. My mother died last week so I understand some of what you are going through. Take care ...

Condolences to both of you, it's a difficult time when you loose someone close.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

@Maggy

Sincere condolences.

Not done yourself any favours with that reply. Bad karma .

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Not done yourself any favours with that reply. Bad karma .

Ironically, neither have you

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ironically, neither have you

Why not?

Gentlemen, two CF’ers have recently lost close family members - let’s not get in a bun-fight; it would not be appropriate.

[Russ]

I need new glasses.

I swear I read “bum fight” then.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

MPs are a different subject for me. I can’t stand any of them, I’ve never met an honest one and if they wear a blue rosette then in my eyes they can do no right regardless. Most likely because they’re incapable of it.

Tax avoidance schemes, yes of course they’re legal. Immoral? Yep. Are Tory MPs hypocrites for using them? Absolutely 100% they are.


Huw Edwards - what he did was it immoral? Whilst keeping in mind that it’s subjective word I’d say yes it is but he broke no laws. I’m not suggesting it’s ok on that basis and I wouldn’t agree with anyone who said it was.

I’d put pop stars and comedians in the same bracket.

We've had this discussion before, 80% of aggressive tax avoidance schemes, like the ones the very wealthy and their paid for schills indulge in are found to be not legal in court, yet this government will have you believe it's the knackered over 50's that are the problem or the people on small boats, "don't look over here at us look over there that asylum seekers kid, it's got taxpayer funded shoes on", anyone claiming this to be politics of envy is either not paying attention or an apologist as of course no laws are broken when you're the one making them, Edwards is another useful distraction for them or he would be if the story hadn't gone cold

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Originally Posted by Maggy

My apologies but I've forgotten the question and I'm currently having to deal with the death of my husband.

Sorry for your loss

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, since not everyone* applied that philosophy in that thread, why should everyone do so?

*in fact, very few did…

Well here’s a selection for you then and these are just the obvious ones.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I imagine it is the press and this coming out that has sent him into hospital. End of the day all he has done is something countless others do every day

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Being caught doing what? Paying a teenager for some nudes?

No criminal proceedings and until there are he is guilty of nothing more than getting his rocks off. You never watched Porn?

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

As I have said. Until there is a crime then I am not gonna judge him harshly

Originally Posted by Damien

What is your point? People are free to make moral judgement about what he was doing but it appears it was consensual and legal.

Originally Posted by nffc

legally, there would be nothing wrong with him having a relationship with, or getting sexual photos from, someone on their 18th birthday. Morally it's a different question, but that's a case of personal values.


Let us not forget the police have investigated this and decided no laws have been broken.

Originally Posted by Halcyon

IF the person was over the age of consent then whatever went down between them is none of our business. If he wants to buy or engage in porn then that's up to him and the only thing that will result from this will be an awkward chat with his wife.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The long and short of it is thus, no criminal office has been committed and there's been a witch hunt instigated by an organisation with highly questionable morals

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Who exploited who? The old man who got a few pictures or the teen who got 35K. Seriously I think you got it the wrong way round

Originally Posted by Halcyon

He was good at his job and if found to have committed no crimes then he should be allowed to go back to his job.

Originally Posted by Paul

Why would the BBC stop it, or do anything (act) ?
Nothing illegal was happening according to the reports.

They (the parents) didnt have a "need" to do anything at all.

In fact, if the "child" was 18, they were actually an adult, entitled to do as they pleased.
It sounds rather like controlling parents having a tantrum when they didnt get their own way.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Cobblers. Nothing illegal. Hes not like a hypocritical politician criticising others, while doing differently themselves. Just a news reader with mental health issues.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Influence and power? He just reads the news from an autocue. As long as he can still do that then thats all that matters to us and his employer. He isn't the PM, and hasn't done anything illegal.

Originally Posted by Maggy

In the UK an 18 year old id legally an adult and entitled to make his own choices and decisions.That's the entire situation here.There has to be a cut off point where adulthood begins and ends.
All the furore that has ensued is purely down to a newspaper trying to sell it's product by trying to make salacious innuendo without reference to the truth.

Originally Posted by daveeb

The law is quite clear and unambigous, as long as two consenting adults are involved. Personal morals don't come in to it

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Well being immoral in most instances is not illegal. Sex outside marriage, adultery, viewing porn. I am sure a good portion on this forum have done at least one of those

Originally Posted by Maggy

Have been in a situation where the teacher was in his 30s.It was completely legal..Yes I as a teacher I was concerned but at the end he wasn't involved directly in her education and they were two consenting adults.