BBC Presenter Huw Edwards Suspended

Originally Posted by Pierre

Studies you can’t provide any evidence of. It’s quite evident you are not capable of much. Let alone research or mothering skills. Come back to me with the evidence of your claims like a reasoned adult engaged in a discussion or I’ll treat you as you are behaving, like a child.

Thats enough from you.
The person behaving like a spoiled bratt/child/dick here is you, towards multiple members.
Back off now or I'll forcibly remove you from the topic.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Chris

You are ill-informed, perhaps dangerously so. As you’re so often fond of spewing links all over the place, here’s one you might like: https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/con...lts/diagnosis/

My sister suffers from severe depression and needed to be sectioned a while back as it got very bad.

Depression is a mental illness not to be taken lightly as most well informed people know.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

My sister suffers from severe depression and needed to be sectioned a while back as it got very bad.

Depression is a mental illness not to be taken lightly as most well informed people know.

The key thing with clinical depression is there usually isn't a trigger. It just comes for no identifiable reason.
NHS website

Sometimes there's a trigger for depression. Life-changing events, such as bereavement, losing your job or giving birth, can bring it on.
People with a family history of depression are more likely to experience it themselves. But you can also become depressed for no obvious reason.

In this case, who wouldn't feel depressed about the situation? It would be very weird if somebody, wasn't depressed about it.

From your link…

Depression is more than simply feeling unhappy or fed up for a few days.

[Halcyon]

There are a combination of things we need to address here:


IF the person he was in contact with was under age, AND illegal activities took place, then that is clearly a crime and whether he has mental health issues or not, it is still wrong and he will have to face justice for this.


IF the person was over the age of consent then whatever went down between them is none of our business. If he wants to buy or engage in porn then that's up to him and the only thing that will result from this will be an awkward chat with his wife.


The grey area is when people are in places of power, a celebrity, or someone who has influences over someone. This could be through many ways or in this case by large amounts of cash it seems.
Should he be punished for enticing the situation, splashing the cash, etc?
It depends. Were there threats involved?

The law would come down strong if the person is under 18, but could it still apply due to the age gap?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

From your link…

There is more than one form of depression. This would come under "reactive/situational" depression. After all, it's the situation that is being blamed for it. How would anybody not be depressed from being in that situation?

[Halcyon]

My take on it is that the guy has mental health issues and that has possibly had an impact on his marriage. Being a human being like everyone else in the world, he needed a bit of love.
He let it go too far and forgot that as a person in the public eye it would get all over the news.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

There are a combination of things we need to address here:


IF the person he was in contact with was under age, AND illegal activities took place, then that is clearly a crime and whether he has mental health issues or not, it is still wrong and he will have to face justice for this.


IF the person was over the age of consent then whatever went down between them is none of our business. If he wants to buy or engage in porn then that's up to him and the only thing that will result from this will be an awkward chat with his wife.


The grey area is when people are in places of power, a celebrity, or someone who has influences over someone. This could be through many ways or in this case by large amounts of cash it seems.
Should he be punished for enticing the situation, splashing the cash, etc?
It depends. Were there threats involved?

The law would come down strong if the person is under 18, but could it still apply due to the age gap?

Which according to the police isn't the case ?

Interesting there's people all over the internet calling the person a nonce/peado etc. yet fail to remember that the newspaper in question that broke the story published topless pictures of a 16yr old woman.

perhaps someone could explain how one is ok, and the other has lead to this witch hunt?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Which according to the police isn't the case ?

Interesting there's people all over the internet calling the person a nonce/peado etc. yet fail to remember that the newspaper in question that broke the story published topless pictures of a 16yr old woman.

perhaps someone could explain how one is ok, and the other has lead to this witch hunt?

Pure whataboutery.

Applying that principle to the nth degree The Sun can never expose or allege any wrongdoing because it’s actions in the past, legal at the time, don’t stand up to 2020s morality.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by jfman

Pure whataboutery.

Applying that principle to the nth degree The Sun can never expose or allege any wrongdoing because it’s actions in the past, legal at the time, don’t stand up to 2020s morality.

Your whole argument is whataboutery . No evidence of crime. No Police investigation yet you still ... well you still

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by jfman

Pure whataboutery.

Applying that principle to the nth degree The Sun can never expose or allege any wrongdoing because it’s actions in the past, legal at the time, don’t stand up to 2020s morality.

You're on thin ice with the above statement, extrapolation of that point leads to things such as no apologies or repatriations for things issued for slavery, because as you say it was OK at the time and wasn't viewed with our current moral compass.

The long and short of it is thus, no criminal office has been committed and there's been a witch hunt instigated by an organisation with highly questionable morals & a dubious history.

Seems legit........

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Your whole argument is whataboutery . No evidence of crime. No Police investigation yet you still ... well you still

I still nothing.

I’m under no obligation to swallow the simple old fool spaffed 35 grand on Onlyfans so let’s feel sorry for him narrative.

I of course make no accusations of crime. I don’t base my moral compass upon what actions at any given time are lawful or not.

Particularly when wealthy, older people potentially exploit poorer, younger people.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by jfman

I still nothing.

I’m under no obligation to swallow the simple old fool spaffed 35 grand on Onlyfans so let’s feel sorry for him narrative.

I of course make no accusations of crime. I don’t base my moral compass upon what actions at any given time are lawful or not.

Particularly when wealthy, older people potentially exploit poorer, younger people.

Who exploited who? The old man who got a few pictures or the teen who got 35K. Seriously I think you got it the wrong way round

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

You're on thin ice with the above statement, extrapolation of that point leads to things such as no apologies or repatriations for things issued for slavery, because as you say it was OK at the time and wasn't viewed with our current moral compass.

The long and short of it is thus, no criminal office has been committed and there's been a witch hunt instigated by an organisation with highly questionable morals & a dubious history.

Seems legit........

I’m not sure further ridiculous extrapolation does anything to support your point. It’s almost as if unrelated events at different times can and should be judged on their own merits without an inherent unconscious (or even conscious) bias.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Which according to the police isn't the case ?

Interesting there's people all over the internet calling the person a nonce/peado etc. yet fail to remember that the newspaper in question that broke the story published topless pictures of a 16yr old woman.

perhaps someone could explain how one is ok, and the other has lead to this witch hunt?

People will make their own conclusions without knowing the facts and they love doing it.
It is good to hear that the official bodies (the police) have determined nothing illegal is taking place.


As for the newspaper publishing underage photos, it was a different time back then. Just in the same way that they used to hang people for crimes in the UK but now thankfully this no longer takes place.
You can't compare what was fine in the past with what is the current law now.