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		|  20-07-2023, 16:19 | #16 |  
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			my parents had no broadband or tv, just a phone from virgin, (years ago videotron for tv and phone)
 as they had no broadband, Virgin came and installed a hub, so they have to use that for phone now.
 
 they took the opportunity to get broadband as well, but  they didn't have to.
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		|  21-07-2023, 14:21 | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  It may save costs for VM, but its not in the customer's interest. 'Digital' doesn't always mean better or more robust. |  Kit that runs the analogue phone services for cable isn't made any more. So it's a case of either move customers to digital Hub-based lines or stop offering landline services completely as / when the analogue hardware stops working.
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		|  21-07-2023, 18:57 | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by Halcyon  Do people even use a land line still? I just use my mobile. |  I dont and i am debating if i should just unplug the phone and not use it anymore.
		 
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		|  21-07-2023, 19:55 | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  If you cancel but where are you going to? Openreach are in the process of swtcihing everyone to digital phone connections. It will all end in 2025.
 You cannot cling onto something that willl no longer exist no matter what hub you have.
 
 Worthy of note. BT and some other suppliers force you to use there own routers to take advantage of their digital phone offerings, best to port your number to a third party one if you need to keep your number and use your own equioment.
 
 Mr_K can keep his SH2 but won't keep his phone line.
 
 Peanut can decline but will end up not having a phone service. Good result!
 |  Firstly I can't recall when I last used a landline. Have stated many times I wish I could get rid of it with a reduction in cost .Just pointing out that " you" can cancel your contract , should you are want for what ever  reason to but are tied in . Why someone would is of cause Upto them. ( Cheaper deal else were comes to mind of cause) 
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					Originally Posted by Sirius  I dont and i am debating if i should just unplug the phone and not use it anymore. |  Pulled mine out, stopped the pests calling.
		 
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		|  29-07-2023, 20:18 | #20 |  
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			Virgin's VoIP service is garbage, I was told that the phone cutting out in mid-call was due to a weak signal coming into our property, this was duly fixed as I was also having pixelation issues on the TV, but it's still doing the same with the phone cutting out after a few minutes and also sounding like there is an echo whilst speaking.
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		|  29-07-2023, 22:13 | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mad Max  Virgin's VoIP service is garbage, I was told that the phone cutting out in mid-call was due to a weak signal coming into our property, this was duly fixed as I was also having pixelation issues on the TV, but it's still doing the same with the phone cutting out after a few minutes and also sounding like there is an echo whilst speaking. |  It's as I thought. As far as phonelines are concerned,  digital/voip is a downgrade.
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		|  30-07-2023, 13:25 | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by peanut  What are the benefits for going digital and do you still have to pay line rental if choose to go digital? |  Can't think of any benefits other than cutting costs as if your broadband goes down or theirs a power cut you have no phone line
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		|  30-07-2023, 14:20 | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by Frazz  Can't think of any benefits other than cutting costs as if your broadband goes down or theirs a power cut you have no phone line |   Well, the times that neither of those happen means that you can get phone connectivity with no additional cabling or kit required anywhere other than in VM's network hubs or the wire plugging your phone into the existing super hubs.
 
All they'll need is a phone system which supports VOIP connections over the existing data network as opposed to separate phone infrastructure, landline cabling etc into each property.
 
Much easier to maintain if something goes wrong.
 
I think part of the solution for power cuts involves giving customers a back up battery like a UPS for their phone or even a backup handset which essentially works as a mobile phone and can be used in events that there is no power, and there's nothing stopping getting the phone and superhub connected via a UPS in the event of shorter outages (though ones lasting several hours will probably exhaust most UPS batteries too). 
 
Broadband being down is different but then there could always be the option via a SIM to switch connectivity to mobile data - more routers should offer this really.
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		|  30-07-2023, 14:54 | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by Frazz  Can't think of any benefits other than cutting costs as if your broadband goes down or theirs a power cut you have no phone line |  Thats what mobile phones are for.
		 
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