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			17-01-2022, 14:12
			
			
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			These parties were all ages ago. 
 
 
Whilst I still find it an absolute disgrace that they did it, and at a time when the country was under restrictions, they did it, and pulling up parties from the woodwork isn't going to change anything really.  
 
 
 
In reality we just need a full and frank apology, detailing exactly when they did have parties which weren't in the spirit of the guidance/restrictions, apologise for them all and then say they will hand over the details to the Met Police for them to decide what course of action to take. And that they will not influence this outcome and will accept it. 
 
 
Since we're unlikely to be in this situation again, any claim they have "learned from it" which may apply to something in the future, isn't going to be relevant to further accusations of parties. 
 
 
If Johnson has indeed facilitated this or been one of the key instigators, then as anyone else in this situation he obviously should resign.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			17-01-2022, 14:16
			
			
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				Why do I need to? It's what the situation was. How would you expect them to have dinner when they were working? 
			
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				if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job. 
			
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 So what's your answer to my question?
 
If he was away from home for work (which was legal at the time if not able to work from home for that) and was taking a break for food and drink during that working period (which was legal) what is indefensible about it?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-01-2022, 14:42
			
			
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				So what's your answer to my question? 
 
If he was away from home for work (which was legal at the time if not able to work from home for that) and was taking a break for food and drink during that working period (which was legal) what is indefensible about it? 
			
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 pizza party with beer, in a confined space, ignoring covid regulations, , didn't even bother to take it outside to mitigate the risk of spreading covid .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			17-01-2022, 18:06
			
			
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			Surely Shirley, we don't want any distractions that helps Boris to get off the hook. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			17-01-2022, 18:10
			
			
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				Surely Shirley, we don't want any distractions that helps Boris to get off the hook. 
 
			
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 I'm sure Labour would love Johnson to stay in power until the next election.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-01-2022, 18:50
			
			
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				Surely Shirley, we don't want any distractions that helps Boris to get off the hook. 
 
			
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 If we are going after lawbreakers why not go after them all, no point giving the hypocrites a free ride.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Well, you and OB have tried your best…    
			
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			17-01-2022, 19:14
			
			
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				I'm sure Labour would love Johnson to stay in power until the next election. 
			
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 They would, but he won’t.  However there are still difficult days ahead and Tory strategists will now want as much of that muck to stick to Boris as possible rather than clinging on to his successor come election time.
 
I still think he will be gone this year but they will move heaven and earth to delay it as long as they can.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-01-2022, 19:17
			
			
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			That runs the risk of the damage seeping into the wider Tory Party rather than just Johnson though. After all they are saying he deserves to stay.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-01-2022, 19:18
			
			
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				Yes, it's such a difficult concept isn't it? Innocent until proven guilty.    
			
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 Dont you mean "innocent until whitewashed by an inquiry done by one of your subordinates that you get to decide whether to act on"?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			17-01-2022, 19:27
			
			
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				Dont you mean "innocent until whitewashed by an inquiry done by one of your subordinates that you get to decide whether to act on"? 
			
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 Old Boy's right. We need to wait for Johnson to decide whether he's guilty of breaching any Covid laws.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Old Boy's right. We need to wait for Johnson to decide whether he's guilty of breaching any Covid laws.    
			
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 And i feel sure that once that decision is reached you'll finally be happy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Old Boy's right. We need to wait for Johnson to decide whether he's  guilty of breaching any Covid laws.   
			
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			17-01-2022, 19:46
			
			
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				That runs the risk of the damage seeping into the wider Tory Party rather than just Johnson though. After all they are saying he deserves to stay. 
			
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 It will be interesting to see how Johnson reacts. I can't see him playing the statesman and falling on his sword. Does he have a hold over any Ministers and MPs who turned up to the parties who he can cajole into supporting him? Would he try and bring them down with him?  
 
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				Does that go for Keith too? 
			
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			17-01-2022, 19:47
			
			
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				Does that go for Keith too? 
			
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 He's already found himself not guilty.
 
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