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16-01-2022, 00:38
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
It’d be hilarious (although I concede extremely unlikely) if the Scottish Conservatives were the first of the unionist parties to split from their London masters.
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16-01-2022, 15:34
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
There seem to be few people  illing to defend Johnson over the now infamous "work" party. I've scoured readers' comments on newspaper websites and have finally found someone sticking up for him.
'ParticipantObserver' in the Guardian noted "...to be fair, when a clown turns up at a party, he is at work" 
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SamCoatesSky Today Dominic Lawson in the Sunday Times challenges No10 claims that Boris Johnson didn’t know that the 20/5/20 garden party organised by his PPS Martin Reynolds was anything more than a “work event”
He claims the PM was challenged over the email twice.
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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...971844/photo/1
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...pint-dh0dqzftl
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16-01-2022, 16:18
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
It was quite normal for Civil Service admin staffers who worked closely together to have a "wind-down" drink at the end of the week. P.O.E.T.S day. Sometimes in the office, sometimes in local bars.
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16-01-2022, 16:36
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.
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16-01-2022, 16:37
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Damien
They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.
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I'd like to see a poll on that one
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16-01-2022, 16:51
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I'd like to see a poll on that one |
Well...
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They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.
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The thing is the heads that roll would have to be sufficiently high, which in turn will sour the relationship (probably already strained) between Senior Civil Servants and Ministers.
Fundamentally Ministers are setting a precedent where - no matter what goes wrong - officials take the fall.
The idea that these happened, Johnson, Raab and presumably others attended such events sincerely believing them to be work related, is entirely fanciful.
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16-01-2022, 21:09
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The thing is the heads that roll would have to be sufficiently high, which in turn will sour the relationship (probably already strained) between Senior Civil Servants and Ministers.
Fundamentally Ministers are setting a precedent where - no matter what goes wrong - officials take the fall.
The idea that these happened, Johnson, Raab and presumably others attended such events sincerely believing them to be work related, is entirely fanciful.
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And the net result is the most talented in the civil service will avoid working for No. 10 or price walking the plank for their boss's mistakes into their salary expectations.
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They're certainly gearing up to fire some staffers and have Johnson 'clean up this mess'. Not sure it's going to work, the public aren't idiots.
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Some of the public didn't know what Johnson was like when they voted Conservative in 2019; they saw him as an upbeat, likeable and humorous guy. They're not laughing anymore.
I'm not sure even a fulsome apology will work at this late stage, given the many cover-ups to date.
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17-01-2022, 13:49
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Starmer refuses to apologise for boozy pizza party
He travelled hundreds of miles for boozy pizza night during lockdown.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inks-work.html
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17-01-2022, 13:50
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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No, he didn't travel for a pizza night.
He was already there working and they were having food and drink for dinner before doing more work. As I posted this earlier when The Sun reported at the time.
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17-01-2022, 13:52
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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No, he didn't. He was already there working and they were having food and drink before doing more work.
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 oh come on you can do better than that.
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17-01-2022, 13:55
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Why do I need to? It's what the situation was. How would you expect them to have dinner when they were working?
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17-01-2022, 13:55
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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oh come on you can do better than that. |
He doesn't need to 
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17-01-2022, 14:06
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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He doesn't need to |
if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.
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17-01-2022, 14:09
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.
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Bojo has turned it into an art form.
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17-01-2022, 14:11
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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if he doesn't want to fair enough that's his choice, defending the indefensible isn't an easy job.
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Well, you and OB have tried your best… 
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