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An erratically driven Mercedes with blacked out windows - apparently.
 
Until this stuff hit the news I'd never heard of the 'complainants' and certainly wouldn't recognise them. All I'd see are two people in a car (sadly associated) with crimes . .  and in London I'd have been tempted to shoot the shit out of it first   
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1   |  But ONLY about the handcuffing. They don't seem to have been handcuffed initially, as is it her seen holding the child? They DIDN'T simply, quietly and calmly get out of the car, as normal people would do. She had to be almost dragged out. If that you're awkward, then you're acting suspiciously. What's so complicated about that? 
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An erratically driven Mercedes with blacked out windows - apparently.
 
 Until this stuff hit the news I'd never heard of the 'complainants' and certainly wouldn't recognise them. All I'd see are two people in a car (sadly associated) with crimes . .  and in London I'd have been tempted toshoot the shit out of it first  |  As happened at a BLM protest barrier in Atlanta.
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 According to officials, Secoriea was in the car with her mother and  another adult when the driver attempted to pass through illegally placed  barricades. They were trying to get into a car park, but the entrance  was blocked by armed individuals.
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Ignore the BLM extremists, this is an example of why so many people in this country are supporting the principles of the movement. 
 Maybe some would pop up and say that it was their own fault for driving a Mercedes, wouldn't surprise me at all ..
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An erratically driven Mercedes with blacked out windows - apparently.
 
Until this stuff hit the news I'd never heard of the 'complainants' and certainly wouldn't recognise them. All I'd see are two people in a car (sadly associated) with crimes . .  and in London I'd have been tempted to shoot the shit out of it first   |  
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oooohh  that hurts  ooohh  I'm triggered now  ooooh I'm going to . . .  
     oh hang on a minute, you probably own a Mercedes don't you, come on admit it . . does it cause you issues? . . .  is it a black one?          
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					Originally Posted by Carth  True I'm afraid, however I think that's the way the whole BLM thing has decended into ridiculous and petty arguements about statues, street names, pub names, stop & search, and the need to employ more BAME people whatever the cost    |   It is and always has been, about having total power and control over everybody and everything. 
 
Just look at the number of people that have been forced out for having the "wrong" opinions, or simply not expressing support. They turn violent when certain words are allegedly used by White people, but mysteriously Black people use them each and every day without incident. It's a case of "you can only do and say what we allow you to". Try watching a few TV series or Films that are set in a Black environment.
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 In surveillance video obtained from Macy’s by Flint Township Police,  Palmer is allegedly seen walking around the store. He then approaches  and sucker-punches the manager in the head from behind, knocking him to  the floor, according to authorities.
 The video allegedly shows  Palmer continuing to strike the manager while the employee is on the  floor. Palmer then exits the store with another man.
 Leyton  indicated that despite public comments on social media, the police  investigation did not uncover any evidence of provocation by the store  manager.
 “This was an unprovoked attack on a Macy’s employee,”  Leyton said Friday. “This behavior, as seen on the video, is  unacceptable, it is criminal and it cannot be allowed.
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 “I  know a lot of people are calling this a hate crime but, under the laws  of Michigan, the evidence simply does not support that charge,” he said.
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			Can we get away from relentless point scoring at all? Can we actually come up with some sort of way forward? Can we actually become a diverse society for real?Also can we really relate what happens in the US with the situation here?
		 
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					Originally Posted by nomadking  It is and always has been, about having total power and control over everybody and everything.  
Just look at the number of people that have been forced out for having the "wrong" opinions, or simply not expressing support. They turn violent when certain words are allegedly used by White people, but mysteriously Black people use them each and every day without incident. It's a case of "you can only do and say what we allow you to". Try watching a few TV series of Films that are set in a Black environment.
Just one example   How? What other motive was there meant to be?
 
Strange that the attackers friend, was filming the attack from the beginning. |  Use of the N word is a prime example of this.  Routinely used by black youths to each other, but deemed extremely offensive if others use the term.
 
It is either offensive, or it isn't, regardless of who uses the term.
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					Originally Posted by RichardCoulter  Use of the N word is a prime example of this.  Routinely used by black youths to each other, but deemed extremely offensive if others use the term.
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