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		|  07-07-2020, 12:03 | #1006 |  
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	You've made my point that behaviours and tolerances have evolved.  Maybe even the woke-ism of the day.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Damien  What counts as pre-work British attitudes? Because homosexuality used to be illegal, women didn't get the vote and even child labour was varying degrees of legal (dependent on what they counted as 'child') within recent British history. |  
 But today's woke-ism goes too far.  These idiots are looking for stuff to denigrate and ban.  Scrabble (today's Torygraph p.20)?  Manhole? Manpower? Cecil Rhodes?
 
 The further evolution that is necessary is a more acceptable approach to policing so that the "B" in BAME are not picked on because it's their word against theirs.  That sort of built in prejudice must be tackled - not a whole load of rabble woke people (and their anarchist add-ons) looking to take down our culture.
 
 
 
 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Until we recognise this past is flawed, we will never be able to make an objective assessment of our place in the world. |  Regongnizing your past is flawed (like everyone elses) does not mean you have to apologise for it.
		 
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		|  07-07-2020, 16:01 | #1009 |  
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			I have to say that I'm not surprised in the least by the number of TV, Radio, Film, Music, Sports 'personalities' (with the personality equivalent to a bucket of well used cat litter) that are spouting absolute garbage in search of their 15  minutes seconds of fame.
 
I deliberately left Journalists off the list because they've been at it for years   
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		|  07-07-2020, 21:02 | #1010 |  
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		| I think a lot of the time when women are Karens, it is because they are completely unwilling to accept that their whiteness is a privilege. |  "Their whiteness is a privilege" ? WTF ? Yet another complete moron.
 
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		|  07-07-2020, 21:08 | #1011 |  
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			A karen is a newish internet slang for a busybody woman who loudly complains and asks to see the manager.
		 
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		|  07-07-2020, 22:20 | #1012 |  
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			From the article... 
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		| The name has become synonymous with a stereotype of a racist white woman, having evolved from US slang regarding women who are entitled, selfish and eager to complain. |  Wonder what they call the male equivalent?
		
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					Originally Posted by Jimmy-J  From the article...
 Wonder what they call the male equivalent?
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					Originally Posted by Jimmy-J  From the article...
 
 Wonder what they call the male equivalent?
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			There isn't really a male equivelent. It only really gets applied to women. 
 It's usually where someone uploads a video of a angry women yelling at someone. I don't especially like the trend because it usually involves a video that was taken without that person's consent (although you don't need it to record publically but still), often without the full context and without knowing what the person was going through. Then it goes viral, some woman is completely publically shamed without due process and we don't know if they deserve it.
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		|  08-07-2020, 11:40 | #1016 |  
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			I’d say gammon is the obvious equivalent, it’s obviously meant to convey the blotchy red face  of an angry man aged 50 plus.  But because it doesn’t actually use a male name, feminists like to conveniently overlook it so they can complain that Karen is a sexist concept.
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		|  08-07-2020, 11:51 | #1017 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jimmy-J  From the article...
 
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			Can a black . . .  ok BAME . . person be a 'Karen' or a 'Gammon'? 
Just wondering . . .  you know . .  equality and all that   
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			Metropolitan Police Commissioner apologises to sprinter Bianca Williams after stop and search 
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		| Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick has apologised to Bianca Williams after the Great Britain sprinter and her partner were handcuffed during a stop and search. Dame Cressida told MPs that two officers had spoken to Williams and Ricardo dos Santos on Tuesday evening to say sorry for the "distress" caused by the incident...
 Speaking to the Home Affairs Select Committee on Wednesday, Dame Cressida said: "My senior officer did say I'm sorry, and I say that too, and if there are lessons to be learnt from it we will learn them.
 "I am looking at handcuffing as a specific issue. I think the Met has come an enormous way, I say to other people, if you want to call us institutionally racist then that's a matter for you. It's not a label I find helpful."
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		|  08-07-2020, 13:35 | #1020 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1   |  Ignore the BLM extremists, this is an example of why so many people in this country are supporting the principles of the movement. 
 
Maybe some would pop up and say that it was their own fault for driving a Mercedes, wouldn't surprise me at all ..
		 
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