The state benefits system mega-thread.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by denphone

The public want politicians they can believe and trust and not some of the current insincere rabble that pass for politicians currently in this country..

When have the public ever had that? I have never known a politician that I can believe or trust. Please educate me if you can. Name one in the last 50yrs.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

When have the public ever had that? I have never known a politician that I can believe or trust. Please educate me if you can. Name one in the last 50yrs.

Can't think of many off the top of my head pip but further back then that the public certainly trusted politicians more.

[denphone]

Universal credit IT system 'broken', whistleblowers say.

Universal credit is so riddled with design flaws and process faults that it is practically guaranteed to generate mistakes and delays that would push vulnerable benefit claimants into hardship, according to whistleblowers.

Growing concern over universal credit, which is six years behind schedule but will eventually handle £63bn of benefits going to 8 million people, is matched by disquiet over what critics say has been a defensive and insular approach to managing welfare reform by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...tleblowers-say

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...versal-creditt.

Perhaps if they listened and learned to start with rather then being dogmatic and indifferent they would not be in the mess they are in now.

Originally Posted by pip08456

When have the public ever had that? I have never known a politician that I can believe or trust. Please educate me if you can. Name one in the last 50yrs.

I have a soft spot for that old rogue Dennis Skinner..

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Can't think of many off the top of my head pip but further back then that the public certainly trusted politicians more.

The fact that you haven't named a single one shows that you can't think of any!

And you think that politicians don't give straight answers.

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Originally Posted by denphone

No l would have not given in.

Non politicians don't need votes as thankfully l am not one of the current duplicitous politicians that reside in Westminster.

Honestly, Den. You would not have given in if you were Theresa May. Fine. Unfortunately, you have failed to tell us what you would have done in her place, which was the question.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The fact that you haven't named a single one shows that you can't think of any!

And you think that politicians don't give straight answers.[COLOR="Silver"]

No there ain't any politicians l can trust as those who put their faith and trust in them will be severely disappointed as you will find out once you take those political blinkers you seem to have permanently stuck on you.

[RichardCoulter]

DWP 'consulting' as they wish to start making extra checks on benefits for disabled children, disabled pensioners and carers, despite overwhelming evidence that the level of fraud in these groups is negligible.

The highest amount of fraud is committed by Housing Benefit landlords & claimants (38.4%).

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2018/07/...enefit-cheats/

PIP and DLA claimant ovetpayments amount to 6.8%, the Government chooses not to collate how much PIP and DLA isn't claimed, but generally speaking the amount of benefit underpaid is about four times the amount of benefits overpaid.

Overall, claimant fraud amounts to 1.2% of the total benefits bill, unchanged since 2016.

[Taf]

Once PIP is fully rolled-out for adults, it will no doubt be rolled-out for children. And after that it will cease to be direct monetary aid each month, but a system of providing physical disability aids such as wheelchairs and home adaptations. All provided by a company with financial ties to the government perhaps?

[Stephen]

The PIP process is a total shambles and needs fixed.

I applied in March and in May got rejected as they scored me 6 points. The 'medical' person basically said that almost everything I have difficulty with I can manage she feels.

Mandatory reconsideration had no bearing on things and at the middle of June a formal appeal was logged via the Tribunal service. I have still not had any letters or contract from the DWP regarding this. Its stressing me out how long this damn process seems to take.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The PIP process is a total shambles and needs fixed.

I applied in March and in May got rejected as they scored me 6 points. The 'medical' person basically said that almost everything I have difficulty with I can manage she feels.

Mandatory reconsideration had no bearing on things and at the middle of June a formal appeal was logged via the Tribunal service. I have still not had any letters or contract from the DWP regarding this. Its stressing me out how long this damn process seems to take.

The tribunal service is that backed up expect 12-18mths before you hear anything.

[denphone]

Pip is spot on with that analysis Stephen as one thing claimants must not do is to grow tired of the long winded process and give in as that is what the DWP want claimants to do.

[RichardCoulter]

Exactly right Den. The system is deliberately set up so as to grind (often very poorly people) down.

Originally Posted by Stephen

The PIP process is a total shambles and needs fixed.

I applied in March and in May got rejected as they scored me 6 points. The 'medical' person basically said that almost everything I have difficulty with I can manage she feels.

Mandatory reconsideration had no bearing on things and at the middle of June a formal appeal was logged via the Tribunal service. I have still not had any letters or contract from the DWP regarding this. Its stressing me out how long this damn process seems to take.

Stephen, contact their complaints line and ask for an update.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...ints-procedure

Disability Living Allowance for
people aged under 65 - 0800 121 4600

[Stephen]

Well good news. Got a call on Friday afternoon from the DWP and it was to say they have looked at my application again and are giving me the standard payment for daily living and mobility. Backdated to March.

If I accepted they would contact the tribunal to say it's closed. They clearly don't want it going that far.

I'm happy.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well good news. Got a call on Friday afternoon from the DWP and it was to say they have looked at my application again and are giving me the standard payment for daily living and mobility. Backdated to March.

If I accepted they would contact the tribunal to say it's closed. They clearly don't want it going that far.

I'm happy.

Duration? Many I share info with have had DWP backtrack before Tribunal but the duration of the claim was only a year or two. That meant reassessment almost immediately.