Brexit discussion

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by denphone

Whether people are hypocrites or not Half of British voters believe Prime Minister Theresa May is incapable of getting the right Brexit deal for this country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KBN1EX1ZR?il=0

Hardly a surprise that a poll on effectively remain / leave would split 50 / 50.

It isn't possible to get the interviewee's to distinguish it from a good or bad effort at dealing with the EU.

It's the same as asking whether any Tory department is doing well or badly. The result will just be reflecting which party the interviewee supports.

As said such polls are a load of bull.

I think that we have become a tad abusive as well as getting off the topic which is Brexit not the Cabinet reshuffle

[heero_yuy]

Cash-strapped parts of Europe are now begging Brussels for a fund to cushion the Brexit blow.

The EU’s vulnerable areas issued an SOS to Eurocrats that shows why the bloc needs a good trade deal with Britain.

Regions pleading for assistance include Andalusia in Spain, Cyprus and the Portuguese island of Madeira, all favourites with British tourists.

Officials told of “negative consequences” if a wide-ranging agreement is not sealed with the UK.

And they are calling for a cash pot to help prop up the parts of the continent worst affected.

Such a fund may need hundreds of millions of pounds at a time when the bloc faces a £9billion budget black hole as a result of losing Britain.

Source

Some useful pressure in the right direction.

[tweetiepooh]

As I've mentioned before, the local Cypriots I spoke to would love to be shot of the Euro but their government doesn't. And as part of the Commonwealth many rights of expat Brits were present before Cyprus joined the EU.

There are too many people on both sides with vested interests who just don't want to listen or compromise or work out the best way forward.

[heero_yuy]

Brussels boss Jean-Claude Juncker last night insisted Brexit will go ahead next year regardless of the opposition from Remainers.

And the European Commission chief said those claiming otherwise are deluded.

His remarks comes as a major rebuke to Remainers who want to reverse Brexit such as Labour peer Lord Adonis and former Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg.

The pair are among those pushing for a second referendum on the deal Theresa May secures with EU leaders.

Mr Juncker told a conference in Brussels: “Don’t believe those who say that it’s not going to happen and that people have realised their error in the UK.

“I don’t think that that’s going to be the case. Our British friends will be leaving us on the 30th of March 2019.”

Source

I like the way The Sun reports minor or obvious statements as 'blows' to Remainers.

---------- Post added at 12:46 ---------- Previous post was at 11:31 ----------

A leaked letter shows David Davies is considering taking the EU to court over their preparation for a no deal scenario: https://www.ft.com/content/7306b972-...7-5465a6ce1a00

https://www.ft.com/content/7306b972-...7-5465a6ce1a00

In particular it seems that he is objecting to the EU giving advice that Britain would be a 'third' country in relation to the EU in the event of no deal and that this advice is jeopardising contracts and businesses in the UK.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

I like the way The Sun reports minor or obvious statements as 'blows' to Remainers.

A recent crossword clue was "arsemoner" (anag.)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

A leaked letter shows David Davies is considering taking the EU to court over their preparation for a no deal scenario: https://www.ft.com/content/7306b972-...7-5465a6ce1a00
In particular it seems that he is objecting to the EU giving advice that Britain would be a 'third' country in relation to the EU in the event of no deal and that this advice is jeopardising contracts and businesses in the UK.

Love the comments underneath the FT article. In particular this one:

Squirrel So the EU is damaging the UK's interests by complying with and preparing for the UK's determined efforts to leave the EU which makes it all the EU's fault.... straight out of Yes Minister.
DD is a complete moron.

It wasn't long ago that Theresa May was arguing that no deal was better than a bad deal. This letter shows the government now acknowledges this is not the case.

[pip08456]

As FT subscribers are in the minority here why don't you and Damien open your own FT thread.

I'm not a subscriber, it worked I guess because I opened from google.

[1andrew1]

I appreciate that it's previously been mentioned, but it's probably worth repeating.

You can currently access three free articles a day from the FT when searching the headlines via Google and other search engines.

[Mr K]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8152006.html

Brexit campaigners were accused of an embarrassing gaffe after delivering a hamper of British foods to Brussels – made by firms worried they will be hit hard by EU withdrawal.

The campaigners claimed the basket of tasty delights would help Michael Barnier, the chief EU negotiator, “fully grasp the powerful commercial position Britain occupies globally”.

But it was quickly pointed out that two of the goods – Marmite and PG Tips tea – are made by Unilever, which is a giant Anglo-Dutch company.

Just two months ago, the firm warned it was delaying whether to consolidate its headquarters in the UK – rather than the Netherlands - because of the “political turbulence” unleashed by Brexit.

Similarly, Hendrick’s Gin, another item in the hamper, is made by William Grant & Sons – which warned that sales had slumped in some markets because of “exchange rate changes since the referendum”.

Silly Billys... Still, nice hamper, apart from the disgusting Marmite !

[jonbxx]

Biography of Churchill who campaigned for a united states of Europe in there as well. Gin was Dutch originally too.

That told ‘em

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8152006.html

Silly Billys... Still, nice hamper, apart from the disgusting Marmite !

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Biography of Churchill who campaigned for a united states of Europe in there as well. Gin was Dutch originally too.

That told ‘em

Lol, what muppets! Did they employ the same researcher who checked out Toby Young's background when they compiled the hamper?

Though 10/10 for the contents including the delicious Marmite.

[Dave42]

well well well even Farage calling for second referendum now


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