Brexit discussion - Page 102

1andrew1 · 06-01-2018, 15:43

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Originally Posted by Carth

I see that a group of MEP's have written a letter asking if they can keep their snouts in the trough, and wanting that master of reality Tony Blair to join the discussions. They also say voters should have chance of a rethink . .

We should remember these names for future reference LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0-british-meps

Staying in the single market doesn't preserve the MEPs' jobs. It does help preserve their constituents' jobs though.

Osem · 06-01-2018, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Carth

I see that a group of MEP's have written a letter asking if they can keep their snouts in the trough, and wanting that master of reality Tony Blair to join the discussions. They also say voters should have chance of a rethink . .

We should remember these names for future reference LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0-british-meps

Well the likes of Blair, Clegg et al think they know best and want to give the public as many chances as they need to come to the right conclusion i.e. stay within the EU. You can bet that if there was another vote and the result was just as close but in the other direction they'd not be demanding a best of 3 vote as an end to the matter. No, at that point they'd have got their way and would very rapidly ensure that nothing like Brexit could ever happen again. No more votes, no more chances to consider the ramifications...
These people are the most hideous shameless hypocrites and they know all too well about the gravy train...

jonbxx · 06-01-2018, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Osem

Well the likes of Blair, Clegg et al think they know best and want to give the public as many chances as they need to come to the right conclusion i.e. stay within the EU. You can bet that if there was another vote and the result was just as close but in the other direction they'd not be demanding a best of 3 vote as an end to the matter. No, at that point they'd have got their way and would very rapidly ensure that nothing like Brexit could ever happen again. No more votes, no more chances to consider the ramifications...
These people are the most hideous shameless hypocrites and they know all too well about the gravy train...

Is this more or less hypocritical than people who profess to hate the EU and want to leave while happily taking money from the EU - Nigel Farage and Paul Dacre for example.

TheDaddy · 07-01-2018, 09:00

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

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So much for remoaners prediction of money making a exodus to the EU. Another myth busted.

Not really busted, who actually believed they'd go, people are quick to point out that no one believed lies on a side of a bus then why would they believe this, I've said on here loads of times when HSBC start making demands and threatening to leave call their bluff, if they think they can attract the best to some Singapore back water over London then go ahead and try.

My concern with investment is once we leave the lack of regulation might mean we are involved in a very unpleasant race to the bottom which obviously won't benefit the little people but will of course mean the few at the top do very nicely, it's worth keeping an eye on whose funding these groups and think tanks promoting a post brexit utopia and working out what they have to gain. Just my opinion of course but then I don't trust any of them.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

You can add Nigel Farage to 'ze list' of 'traitors', who is quite happy to claim his £73k EU pension.

He's what I'd call a 'nasty hypocrite'

It's okay, some one will be along to expose him as such soon

1andrew1 · 07-01-2018, 12:28

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not really busted, who actually believed they'd go, people are quick to point out that no one believed lies on a side of a bus then why would they believe this, I've said on here loads of times when HSBC start making demands and threatening to leave call their bluff, if they think they can attract the best to some Singapore back water over London then go ahead and try.

My concern with investment is once we leave the lack of regulation might mean we are involved in a very unpleasant race to the bottom which obviously won't benefit the little people but will of course mean the few at the top do very nicely, it's worth keeping an eye on whose funding these groups and think tanks promoting a post brexit utopia and working out what they have to gain. Just my opinion of course but then I don't trust any of them.

HSBC have said they will move 1,000 people to Paris in the event of no deal for financial services. We shall have to see if this happens. Obviously, numbers depend on whether a deal can be struck with the EU. What is also apparent is we have bought more time through the transition period.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's okay, someone will be along to expose him as such soon

Only Venezuelan-loving lefties and feeble-minded centrists can be exposed, the right has no hypocrites in its ranks.

Osem · 07-01-2018, 20:37

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Is this more or less hypocritical than people who profess to hate the EU and want to leave while happily taking money from the EU - Nigel Farage and Paul Dacre for example.

Is it more or less hypocritical than the Labour party and the Guardian taking advantage of offshore tax arrangements when whining on ad nauseam about Tories doing it?

You see we've long been fed a diet of hatred aimed at rich Tory fat cats avoiding tax and living champagne lifestyles etc. but there are plenty of Champagne socialists who're just as bad only they claim to be better. I know which are the biggest hypocrites and they come in red I'm afraid.

Mr K · 07-01-2018, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Osem

Is it more or less hypocritical than the Labour party and the Guardian taking advantage of offshore tax arrangements when whining on ad nauseam about Tories doing it?

You see we've long been fed a diet of hatred aimed at rich Tory fat cats avoiding tax and living champagne lifestyles etc. but there are plenty of Champagne socialists who're just as bad only they claim to be better. I know which are the biggest hypocrites and they come in red I'm afraid.

But you just effectively said they're all as bad as each other (many would agree). Yet you only see fit to expose those 'in red' or give us lovely links from the balanced 'order-order'.

'Hypocrite' is definitely the word, you're right there !

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jonbxx · 07-01-2018, 21:30

Hypocrites whose politics I disagree with - bad
Hypocrites whose politics I agree/align with - ssh, move along, nothing to see here.

I think any of us would struggle to find politicians or media outlets beyond all reproach. It’s the same as trying to find a party whose policies you would agree with 100% It’s picking the ‘least bad’ option.

denphone · 08-01-2018, 20:03

Whether people are hypocrites or not Half of British voters believe Prime Minister Theresa May is incapable of getting the right Brexit deal for this country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KBN1EX1ZR?il=0

Kursk · 08-01-2018, 20:30

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whether people are hypocrites or not Half of British voters believe Prime Minister Theresa May is incapable of getting the right Brexit deal for this country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KBN1EX1ZR?il=0

Polls are bollocks.

Mr K · 08-01-2018, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Polls are bollocks.

Racist. Some of my best friends are Poles.

denphone · 08-01-2018, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Polls are bollocks.

l suppose they are if one disagrees with them..

Kursk · 08-01-2018, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Racist. Some of my best friends are Poles.

You have no friends; don't talk bollocks

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Originally Posted by denphone

l suppose they are if one disagrees with them..

Nope. They are just bollocks.

1andrew1 · 08-01-2018, 20:57

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whether people are hypocrites or not Half of British voters believe Prime Minister Theresa May is incapable of getting the right Brexit deal for this country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KBN1EX1ZR?il=0

Theresa May has had one blinder of a day in her cabinet reshuffle. She will get us a great Brexit deal in the same way that she got Justine Greening to work at the DWP and Jeremy Hunt to work at the Department for Business. This poll is fake news!

Kursk · 08-01-2018, 21:04

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Theresa May has had one blinder of a day in her cabinet reshuffle. She will get us a great Brexit deal in the same way that she got Justine Greening to work at the DWP and Jeremy Hunt to work at the Department for Business. This poll is fake news!

A reshuffle is not like a deck of cards. It is a grown up affair with senior ministers given the chance to reassert their case.

I think you (we) will be surprised at the deal ultimately secured given the hourly negativity.