U.S President: Donald Trump
04-12-2017, 23:36
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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I may not have been clear - Trump’s lawyer said a President could not be charged with Obstruction of Justice - I pointed out that that was not the case, as two Presidents in recent history had been.
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I think the lawyer is saying there is not an obstruction of justice case that could be reasonably applied to Trump, at this stage, if all Trump has done is exercise his constitutional authority. i.e he can fire Comey, he can instruct the Justice Dept on what to investigate (or not to). They are not separate branches of government, the FBI and Justice Dept are subordinates to the President, delegated to exercise his power, not their own.
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05-12-2017, 14:42
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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This talk in the BBC link says it will add $1tn to the National Debt, but it was totally fine for President Obama to increase it by about $4tn, in just 2 years in office and prior presidents significantly adding to the debt also, but I guess because it’s Trump, it’s extra bad. Pathetic hypocritical hysteria strikes again.  |
Despite what Trump says, whether Obama did it or not is irrelevant. If it's bad, it's bad.
That said, I was under the impression that Obama was doing it to try and reduce the impact of the 2008 banking crisis, which could have affected the whole US far more badly than it did, and would have affected both the poor and the wealthy. Surely that is more a more laudable use than reducing taxes for those who are already wealthy?
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05-12-2017, 19:46
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06-12-2017, 03:50
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
BREAKING: President Trump to announce later today the U.S Embassy in Israel, will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Ending the 6 month waiver loophole, that past Presidents have signed to delay the move.
The history: A law that was passed in 1995 under President Bill Clinton’s administration, considers Jerusalem the capital, and even mandates the move of the embassy there. But Bill Clinton, George Bush Jnr and Barack Obama have all each repeatedly used a loophole waiver process, which delays the move every six months. Republicans have called on Trump to finally end this loophole and start the moving process.
The move is likely to cause big rifts within the Middle East, Turkey has already vowed to end diplomatic relations with Israel, if the move went ahead.
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06-12-2017, 06:39
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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BREAKING: President Trump to announce later today the U.S Embassy in Israel, will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Ending the 6 month waiver loophole, that past Presidents have signed to delay the move.
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Well Done Donald!
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06-12-2017, 08:23
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Well Done Donald!
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No need to be sarcastic ! He's doing his best .
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06-12-2017, 08:24
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
Complete hypocrisy.
Why is it ok for the yanks to support one terrorist state over another.
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06-12-2017, 08:38
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Complete hypocrisy.
Why is it ok for the yanks to support one terrorist state over another. |
Always been the way, Israel can do no wrong.
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06-12-2017, 11:35
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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No need to be sarcastic ! He's doing his best .
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As you know full well, I wasn't being sarcastic.
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Complete hypocrisy.
Why is it ok for the yanks to support one terrorist state over another. |
Because in the Bible, God promised the land of Israel to the Jewish nation.
God never renages on His promises. Christians who truly follow Jesus, are also grafted on to the Jewish vine.
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06-12-2017, 11:45
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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As you know full well, I wasn't being sarcastic.
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I think he was....
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Because in the Bible, God promised the land of Israel to the Jewish nation.
God never renages on His promises. Christians who truly follow Jesus, are also grafted on to the Jewish vine.
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Well, since the US Constitution clearly states the separation of Church and State, not sure the relevance putting together actions by the US Government and God's promises...
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06-12-2017, 12:15
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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As you know full well, I wasn't being sarcastic.
Because in the Bible, God promised the land of Israel to the Jewish nation.
God never renages on His promises. Christians who truly follow Jesus, are also grafted on to the Jewish vine.
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The whole premise for this argument has been diluted now after Jesus transformed the water into vine
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06-12-2017, 12:49
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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I think he was....
Well, since the US Constitution clearly states the separation of Church and State, not sure the relevance putting together actions by the US Government and God's promises... |
Many people believe that America was raised up originally to be a support for Israel. Recent presidents haven't been supportive, espetially Obama, who seemed to hate Israel. They actualy seemed to be supporting a 'New World Order' agenda; One or Both Bushes used that term in speeches.
Trump, on his campaign trail Said very clearly, that he believed in the Soverign state. He said he fully supported Israel, and appeared to be advocating moral behaviour closer to the Biblical standards on several issues. This is why many Christians, who hated Hillary's stance on these issues, saw Trump as the right person to vote for. And that is why arround seventy percent of Evangelical Christians voted for him.
Church and state is not an issue; Trump said what he woud fully support Israel before he was elected.
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The whole premise for this argument has been diluted now after Jesus transformed the water into vine |
Not true (nice try though  )
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06-12-2017, 13:36
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Many people believe that America was raised up originally to be a support for Israel. Recent presidents haven't been supportive, espetially Obama, who seemed to hate Israel. They actualy seemed to be supporting a 'New World Order' agenda; One or Both Bushes used that term in speeches.
Trump, on his campaign trail Said very clearly, that he believed in the Soverign state. He said he fully supported Israel, and appeared to be advocating moral behaviour closer to the Biblical standards on several issues. This is why many Christians, who hated Hillary's stance on these issues, saw Trump as the right person to vote for. And that is why arround seventy percent of Evangelical Christians voted for him.
Church and state is not an issue; Trump said what he woud fully support Israel before he was elected.
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Not true (nice try though ) |
Advocating, not acting...
Isn't lying breaking one of the 10 commandments?
Isn't it hypocritical to support someone who says one thing, and acts another way? How could so many conservative Christians have voted for an adulterous thrice-married casino mogul who has bragged about assaulting women and rarely goes to church?
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06-12-2017, 13:38
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
Who buys weapons from America?
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06-12-2017, 14:13
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Advocating, not acting...
Isn't lying breaking one of the 10 commandments?
Isn't it hypocritical to support someone who says one thing, and acts another way? How could so many conservative Christians have voted for an adulterous thrice-married casino mogul who has bragged about assaulting women and rarely goes to church?
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I suspect Osem will be along in a minute as his thing is "Exposing lies & hypocrisy"
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