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					Originally Posted by Mr K  He undermines himself in every tweet Smurf, no help required from anyone else  ! |  so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president |  You could apply that sentiment to everybody in this thread then.   
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president |  Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us. |  I think he's more likely to declare was on the NFL than North Korea...
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  I think he's more likely to declare was on the NFL than North Korea... |  Probably both...
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us. |  James Mattis has implied war too.
 
At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  James Mattis has implied war too.
 At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now.
 |  They didn't do much because their options are limited. What is Trump doing apart from escalating things?
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					Originally Posted by Mick  James Mattis has implied war too.
 At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now.
 |  That does seem to be his Modus Operandi...
 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
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		| “If you wanna go after General Kelly, that’s up to you, but I think that — if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate,” Sanders said when asked about the matter. |  Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  That does seem to be his Modus Operandi... 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general 
Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post. |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  That does seem to be his Modus Operandi... 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general 
Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post. |  No that's my Modus Operandi because I am damn sick of the pathetic hypocrisy from MSM and from some folk in this thread, who seems to have selective memories when it suits.
 
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					Originally Posted by Mick  No that's my Modus Operandi because I am damn sick of the pathetic hypocrisy from MSM and from some folk in this thread, who seems to have selective memories when it suits. 
As for the rest of your post. Your point is, if there is actually one ?   |  The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid.
 
Anyway, why should the military be above questioning?
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  [/B]
 and why does that bother you
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  He undermines himself in every tweet Smurf, no help required from anyone else  ! |  Exactly. 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid. |  Why should Trump's state media start displaying an interest in facts? It's not done so to date. 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid.
 Anyway, why should the military be above questioning?
 |  Only in a totalitarian state would no one question the military. I look forward to reading the response to your point.
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.
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He can still be referred to as a 4 star General.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  It doesn't bother Hugh. Why do you think it does?
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 Exactly.
 
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 Why should Trump's state media start displaying an interest in facts? It's not done so to date.
 
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 Only in a totalitarian state would no one question the military. I look forward to reading the response to your point.
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You have room to talk regarding facts, like the so many baseless ones you posted earlier, the ones I corrected you on.    |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  You will have a long wait.  
You have room to talk regarding facts, like the so many baseless ones you posted earlier, the ones I corrected you on.   |  You said he was a 4 star general, he was but isn't any longer. All semantics maybe; you should all kiss and make up    |  
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