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			20-10-2017, 16:47
			
			
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				He undermines himself in every tweet Smurf, no help required from anyone else  ! 
			
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 so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2017, 16:55
			
			
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				so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president 
			
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 You could apply that sentiment to everybody in this thread then.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2017, 17:46
			
			
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				so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president 
			
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 Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2017, 17:52
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us. 
			
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 I think he's more likely to declare was on the NFL than North Korea...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2017, 17:56
			
			
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				I think he's more likely to declare was on the NFL than North Korea... 
			
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			20-10-2017, 18:00
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us. 
			
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 James Mattis has implied war too.
 
At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2017, 18:07
			
			
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				James Mattis has implied war too. 
 
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 They didn't do much because their options are limited. What is Trump doing apart from escalating things?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2017, 21:40
			
			
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				James Mattis has implied war too. 
 
At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now. 
			
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 That does seem to be his Modus Operandi...
 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
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				“If you wanna go after General Kelly, that’s up to you, but I think that — if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate,” Sanders said when asked about the matter.
			
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 Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That does seem to be his Modus Operandi... 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
 https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general
Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp -  he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post. 
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				That does seem to be his Modus Operandi... 
Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say. 
 https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general
Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.  
			
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 No that's my Modus Operandi because I am damn sick of the pathetic hypocrisy from MSM and from some folk in this thread, who seems to have selective memories when it suits.
 
As for the rest of your post. Your point is, if there is actually one ?   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-10-2017, 00:25
			
			
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				No that's my Modus Operandi because I am damn sick of the pathetic hypocrisy from MSM and from some folk in this thread, who seems to have selective memories when it suits. 
As for the rest of your post. Your point is, if there is actually one ?    
			
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 The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid.
 
Anyway, why should the military be above questioning?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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and why does that bother you 
			
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 It doesn't bother Hugh. Why do you think it does?  
 
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				He undermines himself in every tweet Smurf, no help required from anyone else  ! 
			
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 Exactly.  
 
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				The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid. 
			
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 Why should Trump's state media start displaying an interest in facts? It's not done so to date.  
 
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				The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid. 
 
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 Only in a totalitarian state would no one question the military. I look forward to reading the response to your point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-10-2017, 03:00
			
			
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Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post. 
			
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 Sorry Hugh
 
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He can still be referred to as a 4 star General.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-10-2017, 05:05
			
			
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				It doesn't bother Hugh. Why do you think it does? 
 
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Exactly. 
 
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Why should Trump's state media start displaying an interest in facts? It's not done so to date. 
 
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Only in a totalitarian state would no one question the military. I look forward to reading the response to your point. 
			
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 You will have a long wait. 
 
You have room to talk regarding facts, like the so many baseless ones you posted earlier, the ones I corrected you on.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-10-2017, 10:51
			
			
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				You will have a long wait.  
You have room to talk regarding facts, like the so many baseless ones you posted earlier, the ones I corrected you on.    
			
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 You said he was a 4 star general, he was but isn't any longer. All semantics maybe; you should all kiss and make up   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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