Post-Brexit Thread

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i was shocked to hear his family holiday to Spain had increased in price and lets not get started on the price of texting .

its still cheap here in Cleethorpes book early

Seeing his mug again served only to remind how bad things were. I hope he shows up more

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

What a surprise.

http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...ealed-10619546



What a piece of excrement

The Sunday Times says he first wrote an article arguing the case to leave the EU, then wrote the pro-Remain piece "as a way of clarifying his thoughts", before composing a final article for publication backing Brexit

Much ado about nothing

[Ignitionnet]

Good to know even MPs tweet when they really shouldn't



The honourable member for Peterborough doing his bit for national unity. To be fair to him his constituency was heavily leave, so probably playing up to the home audience somewhat.

This is quite interesting and may be part of why he was so upset.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Seeing his mug again served only to remind how bad things were. I hope he shows up more

I don't think The Economist has many subscribers of the type likely to boycott the magazine for a lack of patriotism. Hysterical knee-jerk popularism is not really their thing.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Don't panic everyone CLEGG turned up on Andrew Marr to save us all.

The only thing that can save us is if May listens to the electorate. The country wants her to choose a good EU trade deal over immigration cuts. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/br...-a3370246.html

However, time is not on her side - something of her own making - so she may be tempted to shaft the country and take the easy option of a hard Brexit.
https://www.ft.com/content/ec35e07a-...6-2946058d1122
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...an-to-exploit/

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The only thing that can save us is if May listens to the electorate. The country wants her to choose a good EU trade deal over immigration cuts. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/br...-a3370246.html

However, time is not on her side - something of her own making - so she may be tempted to shaft the country and take the easy option of a hard Brexit.
https://www.ft.com/content/ec35e07a-...6-2946058d1122
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...an-to-exploit/

isn't that what the loosing side wants ie remoaners

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think The Economist has many subscribers of the type likely to boycott the magazine for a lack of patriotism. Hysterical knee-jerk popularism is not really their thing.

Indeed not. If they wanted to go for popularism they would join in the rhetoric from the Mail and Express.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The only thing that can save us is if May listens to the electorate. The country wants her to choose a good EU trade deal over immigration cuts. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/br...-a3370246.html

However, time is not on her side - something of her own making - so she may be tempted to shaft the country and take the easy option of a hard Brexit.
https://www.ft.com/content/ec35e07a-...6-2946058d1122
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...an-to-exploit/

I don't think there is any option other than a full, and fast, Brexit. As I said before there is no need for much negotiation as there's little to negotiate over. May and company have made their position quite clear, it would be extremely politically difficult for them to back down from that.

At very least it will provide some clarity for businesses so that they can join Nissan and JLR in holding up the taxpayer for subsidies.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

isn't that what the losing side wants ie remoaners

You need to move on from 24 June and focus on what the country as a whole wants. The British Governments should be taking the views of everyone in the country and the majority want her to focus on a great trade deal and not immigration.

[Osem]

Good riddance to Carney. Maybe he could be the new England manager as he's been great at moving goalposts during his tenure and the team could clearly do with a bit of that...

Originally Posted by Osem

Good riddance to Carney. Maybe he could be the new England manager as he's been great at moving goalposts during his tenure and the team could clearly do with a bit of that...

What's Carney done that's so bad? I am not an expert on monetary policy but amongst people that are, at least who I have read, the reaction was positive. I was impressed with him in the aftermath of Brexit though as he was the only one who seemed to have a plan and the BoE stopped the immediate panic that hit after that vote.

It seems as the only person who seems to have a clue as to what they're doing he should be the next to go.

There are also rumours Philip Hammond might not be in his role for too long as he wants to keep Carney and wants to keep the single market option open.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Osem

Good riddance to Carney. Maybe he could be the new England manager as he's been great at moving goalposts during his tenure and the team could clearly do with a bit of that...

I agree.

Originally Posted by Kursk

Good riddance. His predictions on interest rates have been useless and his political interventions ill-advised and now he's telling our Prime Minister what to do?

Boot up the arse asap please.

Carney got interest rate predictions consistently wrong, he pokes his nose into politics, he feels the Prime Minister can't tell him what to do, he was George Osbourne's mouthpiece, he contributed to Project Fear and he is not up to the job.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Carney got interest rate predictions consistently wrong, he pokes his nose into politics, he feels the Prime Minister can't tell him what to do, he was George Osbourne's mouthpiece, he contributed to Project Fear and he is not up to the job.

He forgot what he was supposed to be doing IMHO and jumped on the project fear band wagon.

[1andrew1]

The UK’s car industry is doomed to a sharp decline if the country loses access to the EU single market, the head of Germany’s auto industry lobbying group has warned, with automakers likely to move production to low-cost EU countries in eastern Europe.

The comments by Matthias Wissmann mark the first time a senior figure in the German car industry has publicly outlined the consequences from a change to Britain’s trading arrangements with the EU for a sector that has powered the UK’s industrial renaissance in recent years.

Some British ministers have speculated about the possibility of seeking sectoral deals to keep trade flowing, including a special regime for key traded goods such as cars. But Angela Merkel, German chancellor, last week warned against such “comfortable” deals and urged companies engaged in sectoral talks on market access to avoid compromising on EU principles — particularly freedom of movement. Mr Wissmann backed that position. “The UK is an important market for us but the EU market is much more important,” he said. “If the EU were to fall apart, that would be a lot worse for our industry.”

https://www.ft.com/content/e801b67a-...8-d3778b55a923

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Originally Posted by Kursk

he feels the Prime Minister can't tell him what to do.

I think you may have missed the events of 6 May 1997. Here's a reminder!

"The Chancellor, Gordon Brown, has given the Bank of England independence from political control. His surprise announcement - coming only four days after Labour's landslide election win - is being described as the most radical shake-up in the bank's 300-year history."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3806313.stm

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you may have missed the events of 6 May 1997.

Not at all. I remember well that 19 years ago a Labour Prime Minister disassociated himself from changing interest rates to alleviate the Labour Government from potential negativity. That was Labour. That was 19 years ago. Things change.