[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

Originally Posted by ianch99

Let me ask this: if it is crazy that the poster would have influenced a sizeable amount of people then why have it with Boris on stage and why plaster it on the battle bus and drive around the UK with it?



For pity sake, this was not a Farage "tongue statement" as you put it.

They ain't going to spend this money on the NHS: you know it, I know it and we all know it.

I just thought people here would be more honest about this ..

Where does that say spend £350million on he NHS? We're leaving the EU get used to it.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by RBMark

You lost stop clutching at straws, it was made very clear before yesterday that the £350million figure wasn't correct as we had a lot back in rebates. Just like remain declaring all out war in Europe if we voted leave was proven incorrect so was not a reason to vote in or out.

Leave have won, we are leaving the EU now grow up and stop being so childish!

There is always one idiot I suppose.

it was made very clear before yesterday that the £350million figure wasn't correct

Yes they lied. They lied about the figure on the bus and they lied about the money being all spent on the NHS. It is a pity you haven't got the decency to be honest about it.

Deal with it .. they lied .. but hey, that's politics

Originally Posted by ianch99

There is always one idiot I suppose.



Yes they lied. They lied about the figure on the bus and they lied about the money being all spent on the NHS. It is a pity you haven't got the decency to be honest about it.

Deal with it .. they lied .. but hey, that's politics

Ok, you've made your feelings clear I'm sure you can move on now. So let's party tonight as we've voted t leave the EU!!!! Whoop whoop. Didn't remain stay the entire NHS would be under threat if we left? How low!

An I bet there's someone somewhere who could workout with reduced immigration and extra funds directed to the NHS over a period of time the NHS will a under less strain and have more money. Win win.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by RBMark

You lost stop clutching at straws, it was made very clear before yesterday that the £350million figure wasn't correct as we had a lot back in rebates. Just like remain declaring all out war in Europe if we voted leave was proven incorrect so was not a reason to vote in or out.

Leave have won, we are leaving the EU now grow up and stop being so childish!

Indeed he used the word 'net' for 3 days before the vote so people should have known. £350 m per week NET.

He made it clear that " Of course, we get some back in a rebate but the longer we remain the smaller that rebate will be."

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Originally Posted by ianch99

There is always one idiot I suppose.



Yes they lied. They lied about the figure on the bus and they lied about the money being all spent on the NHS. It is a pity you haven't got the decency to be honest about it.

Deal with it .. they lied .. but hey, that's politics

At no time did Ferage say the whole lot would be spent on the NHS. He frequently listed things it could be spent on. When all is said and done it is £350 million per week because we won't have the rebate to bring that figure down.

[Osem]

It's interesting to see how many of those who like to bang on about democracy just can't deal with it when it results in them not getting their way. Pity eh...

Originally Posted by Osem

It's interesting to see how many of those who like to bang on about democracy just can't deal with it when it results in them not getting their way. Pity eh...

Leave were talking of a 2nd referendum if they lost...

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Osem

It's interesting to see how many of those who like to bang on about democracy just can't deal with it when it results in them not getting their way. Pity eh...

Indeed. But I know how they feel. I felt gutted when Scotland didn't get independence and it took me a while to accept and respect the result. Eventually I did and the rest, as they say, is history.

Originally Posted by Damien

Leave were talking of a 2nd referendum if they lost...

An it was ruled out , infact remain even said if the referendum is won by only 1 vote then it will stand and there will be NO! Second chance.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Damien

Leave were talking of a 2nd referendum if they lost...

No. Nigel Ferage was asked about a second referendum if he lost as that story had been bandied about. I don't think he actually answered it directly but there again nothing new for a Politician is it.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by mart44

I don't believe it was selfish for the over 50's to vote 'leave'. I think most have listened to all the debates and have indeed thought about future generations. Coming out might well turn out to have been the best thing to do for their children and grandchildren, even though they might at present get censured for doing what they feel has been right.

I saw a message put that, if unsure, a leave vote could be deferred for future years. However, the vote done now is permanent. This is true but in what state would more years of staying the EU in have seen the country? If it is thought that the EU is bad for our country, a few more years of membership may have seen it even worse ..and nothing can be reversed once done. This being the case, leaving sooner rather than later will have been the right thing to do for future generations, albeit that the action may not be currently appreciated by the young.

The trouble now is that just about all the ills that our country suffers in the future will be put down to leaving the EU when, in fact, we will just never know how our fortunes would have turned out if we had remained.

Yes it's a very cynical view of older people that they'd, en masse, knowingly vote in a manner which they knew would be against the best interests of their children and grandchildren. I know I didn't.

[Julian]

How will we know when the predicted WW3 has started?

Will it be when we are invaded by another country like Romania or Poland... oh wait...

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes it's a very cynical view of older people that they'd, en masse, knowingly vote in a manner which they knew would be against the best interests of their children and grandchildren. I know I didn't.

And, of course, the experience of the EU. We watched it change from a Common Market to a Political Union and possibly eventually a United States of Europe.

[denphone]

l agree as what has happened has happened Osem and one has to get on with it but sadly some on this forum still don't want to behave like grown adults as they still seem to be throwing childish remarks at each other sadly on another thread.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Expect plenty of sour loser posts.

I'll try not to gloat.

I wouldn't expect any, not from any poster that actually cares about democracy as a concept

Originally Posted by Pierre

If that deal includes free movement of people and paying into the EU, which it will do......then what was the point?

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Did your IQ suddenly drop sharply.

If we want access to the single market we will have to accept free movement of people, pay into Europe and accept all the rules regulations and bureaucracy.

So what was the point.

Indeed what was the point, ten years ago I'd have been out there actually campaigning but not now.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

so not interested in our democracy and or our decision .

a classic example of a dave lie he promised to trigger article 50 immediately if we voted leave .

don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out .

I prefer to look at it on the bright side and conclude it's the noblest thing he's ever done

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Leave were talking of a 2nd referendum if they lost...

Well I wasn't referring to Leave or Remain for that matter. I was referring to the usual suspects here but there are plenty of politicians who're just as bad.

We're all painfully aware that both official sides of the debate handled things pretty badly and said things which were unwise, untrue and unwelcome. Especially sad after all those fine sounding words issued after Jo Cox's death. I didn't imagine the new spirit of good will would last long...