General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

In the latest polls the vast majority are totally against the BBC ever going to subscription and mark my words if they were ever to try to go down that road then they will find considerable discontent and unhappiness from the public and even within their own party there would be quite a outrage from what l hear if they ever tried to go down that route.

Yes, and your post is backed up by Iain Martin, political commentator and editor of CapX who wrote a good article in today's FT including "But the BBC will not be undone yet, and not by the current prime minister, who has, as he was always going to, decided not to arouse the fury of the viewers and listeners of middle England. Mr Cameron may be many things. He is not an idiot."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5e52ff48-1...#axzz48TdjzI8w (registration required)

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

We have been given new info from our Virgin Media UK Sources that says the two new TiVo will have their own dedicated superhub to work. They will launch within the next year.

I can't see LGI launching another Superhub, they've only just launched a Europe-wide Superhub and their aim is to standardise technology, not introduce more devices than necessary.

[Horizon]

.... neither do I, but, doesn't the Horizon box that Liberty deploy in their other cablecos contain a router/hub, thus not needing a separate router?

THis is something that used to happen here, an all in one box. Great until something breaks, then you lose not just tv but your internet too.

Originally Posted by Horizon

.... neither do I, but, doesn't the Horizon box that Liberty deploy in their other cablecos contain a router/hub, thus not needing a separate router?

THis is something that used to happen here, an all in one box. Great until something breaks, then you lose not just tv but your internet too.

I don't think the new TiVo will become the main broadband connection, remember sky can use sky q boxes as wifi as well as the main broadband. And there was plans to run the phone line via the superhub so we still need the main superhub

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Horizon

.... neither do I, but, doesn't the Horizon box that Liberty deploy in their other cablecos contain a router/hub, thus not needing a separate router?

THis is something that used to happen here, an all in one box. Great until something breaks, then you lose not just tv but your internet too.

I can't see anything in the brochure that suggests Horizon has a built-in router/hub. Indeed, LGI's new 1Gb router was mentioned in the investor call and pictures of it with different logos appear in the investor call slides, so I doubt it would be given such prominence if it was not needed for Horizon. http://www.libertyglobal.com/PDF/hor...chure-2012.pdf

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

I don't think the new TiVo will become the main broadband connection, remember sky can use sky q boxes as wifi as well as the main broadband. And there was plans to run the phone line via the superhub so we still need the main superhub

That's right. SOmeone on the internet forum said VM will start VOIP in a few years, so needs a seperate router for that.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I can't see anything in the brochure that suggests Horizon has a built-in router/hub. Indeed, LGI's new 1Gb router was mentioned in the investor call and pictures of it with different logos appear in the investor call slides, so I doubt it would be given such prominence if it was not needed for Horizon. http://www.libertyglobal.com/PDF/hor...chure-2012.pdf

According to their specs below it it is a router too.

https://www.upc-cablecom.ch/content/...ser-manual.pdf

Originally Posted by Horizon

That's right. SOmeone on the internet forum said VM will start VOIP in a few years, so needs a seperate router for that.

According to their specs below it it is a router too.

https://www.upc-cablecom.ch/content/...ser-manual.pdf

I think that will be to allow a wifi connection between the box to stream content between boxes

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

I think that will be to allow a wifi connection between the box to stream content between boxes

But page 16 of the manual says "If you ordered a upc cablecom internet subscription with your new Horizon box, you can use the Horizon box as an internet router and wireless access point."
In fact, there are two eras of Horizon - the one with XBMC software (per the manual) and the later one with RDK software shared with Comcast. Perhaps the later versions of Horizon don't have the router/hub built-in?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

But page 16 of the manual says "If you ordered a upc cablecom internet subscription with your new Horizon box, you can use the Horizon box as an internet router and wireless access point."

But this box will not be horizon. And as virgin plan to bring voip, I defo think we will still have a independent router

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

But this box will not be horizon. And as virgin plan to bring voip, I defo think we will still have a independent router

Agreed. Horizon and Tivo are just operating software anyway. The box will be Eos. The new Superhub is prominent on the Swiss page. http://www.upc-cablecom.ch/en/

[johnathome]

Originally Posted by denphone

In the latest polls the vast majority are totally against the BBC ever going to subscription and mark my words if they were ever to try to go down that road then they will find considerable discontent and unhappiness from the public and even within their own party there would be quite a outrage from what l hear if they ever tried to go down that route.

The only thing i watch on BBC is masterchef (i could live without it), that's it. if they went down the subscription route they may be surprised how many millions of LF payers they lose.

i wouldn't subscribe.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by johnathome

The only thing i watch on BBC is masterchef (i could live without it), that's it. if they went down the subscription route they may be surprised how many millions of LF payers they lose.

i wouldn't subscribe.

There are many public amenities that I don't use, but are funded out of national/local tax. Should they be made subscription services?

Of course not; we all pay for many public services that we don't personally use, but their net benefit to the country as a whole is positive.

[Media Boy UK]

Here more information we got yesterday: (We have hold back some info.)

The new TiVo boxes will have more tuners all of them can record at once. Its own dedicated superhub to work and only got 1Tb of storage.

Viewers who want one will need to pay extra per month. (Prices are DNP).

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We have not seen any new info on that app testing on TiVo boxes right now in weeks.

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Here more information we got yesterday: (We have hold back some info.)

The new TiVo boxes will have more tuners all of them can record at once. Its own dedicated superhub to work and only got 1Tb of storage.

Viewers who want one will need to pay extra per month. (Prices are DNP).

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We have not seen any new info on that app testing on TiVo boxes right now in weeks.

Can I ask is it an external super hub or a internal superhub inside each box. So they are still sticking to 1tb of storage when sky offers 2 tb. An extra fee is expected

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Does that mean we will need two superhubs?
Hmm wonder is going to pay for those...unless it's part of the new Tivo costing?

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

Can I ask MB does that mean the new boxes now put back till 2017, are the superhubs integrated into the box or do you need extra super hubs for each box

1) The launch date of August - we was told yesterday "May not happen".

2) On the Superhubs - no info was given on if anyone who wants two new TiVo boxes will get two superhubs.

Originally Posted by Media Boy

1) The launch date of August - we was told yesterday "May not happen".

2) On the Superhubs - no info was given on if anyone who wants two new TiVo boxes will get two superhubs.

So we would need if we have two new tivos we would need three superhubs