17-12-2015, 23:00
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Can you share the link for this? Many thanks ..
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Oh gawd....can I find it now?! I've bloody well seen a video on youtube with one of the recent EU bigwigs actually saying it.  
If/when I find it, rest assured I'll post it 
In the meantime do some reading round the subjects of "cultural homogenization in europe", the "Coudenhove-Kalergi plan"-paying particular attention to past winners of the "Charlemagne Prize"
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18-12-2015, 09:15
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#992
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Oh gawd....can I find it now?! I've bloody well seen a video on youtube with one of the recent EU bigwigs actually saying it.  
If/when I find it, rest assured I'll post it 
In the meantime do some reading round the subjects of "cultural homogenization in europe", the "Coudenhove-Kalergi plan"-paying particular attention to past winners of the "Charlemagne Prize"
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What, like Winston Churchill?
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18-12-2015, 09:30
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#993
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
What, like Winston Churchill?
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No, like your mum. Who do you think I'm talking about? 
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A Euro-sceptic? Churchill? Never
I knew Winston Churchill, I worked with him. I have read his speeches many times. He wanted a United States of Europe
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link
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Leaders of the European Union should revive Winston Churchill’s post-war vision for a kind of ‘United States of Europe’, urged EU Commission President José Manuel Barroso this weekend
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link
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18-12-2015, 10:34
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
To be fair, his proposal and the resulting structures formed have worked, bringing perhaps the longest period of peace between member nations
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18-12-2015, 10:41
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
To be fair, his proposal and the resulting structures formed have worked, bringing perhaps the longest period of peace between member nations
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Indeed. I think that "the project" is an excellent idea. The general idea makes perfect sense and is definitely the way forward.
However......the underhand, sneaky way that the EU is trying to implement it is what I have a problem with. They are basically p*ssing on our legs and telling us that it's raining.
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18-12-2015, 10:58
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
Or it has just delayed the inevitable and stored up even grater resentment and problems for the not too distant future?
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18-12-2015, 14:43
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by Osem
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35091960
Having let in a million refugees (and there'll be more to follow via families etc. I'm sure) maybe she's extra keen on free movement because she'll be hoping a good number of them can be moved on elsewhere in the EU (to countries which didn't 'welcome' them in the first place).
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Let’s face it She will soon have over a million low paid workers to boost there economy.
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18-12-2015, 15:23
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
... and a nice low Euro created by all the mayhem they've caused makes German exports cheaper.
Anyone would think there was some method in all the madness...
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18-12-2015, 15:48
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by Osem
... and a nice low Euro created by all the mayhem they've caused makes German exports cheaper.
Anyone would think there was some method in all the madness... 
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I never looked at it that way
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21-12-2015, 10:22
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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21-12-2015, 11:16
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
How strange, maybe the migrants refugees want to take their chances the backdoor way, fancy that...
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21-12-2015, 11:46
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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21-12-2015, 11:51
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
Yes that would be a total surprise wouldn't it, economic migrants trying it on, forged papers readily available to anyone who can pay, but don't worry there is no significant risk...
Let's be honest, few people would prefer to spend months even years in camps like that only to be sent home some time down the line to a large pile of ruins, no jobs and quite possibly decades of instability, resentment and worse. If we can understand that surely we can understand the hugely powerful instincts which are at work when large numbers of desperate people are on the move. If the EU accepts that it can't give refuge to all the world's needy, at what point are they going to stop trying to do so and what measures are they going to take to stem the flow they've helped to create? There doesn't appear to be a Plan A let alone a Plan B.
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21-12-2015, 12:27
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
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Originally Posted by Taf
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Next they will tell us Bears poo in the woods. I have been saying this since the start of this latest economic migrants rush looking for easy money in the EU. IS terrorists can travel right across the EU without any real risk of being captured and they can use this rush of economic migrants as a cover.
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21-12-2015, 22:19
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Re: Unstoppable migration?
Germans Stock Up on Weapons for Self-Defense
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The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid an indisputable nationwide spike in migrant-driven crime, including rapes of German women and girls on a shocking scale, as well as physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies and burglaries — in cities and towns throughout the country.
German authorities, however, are going to great lengths to argue that the German citizenry's sudden interest in self-defense has nothing whatsoever to do with mass migration into the country, despite ample evidence to the contrary.
The spike in violent crimes committed by migrants has been corroborated by a leaked confidential police report, which reveals that a record-breaking 38,000 asylum seekers were accused of committing crimes in the country in 2014. Analysts believe this figure — which works out to more than 100 crimes a day — is only a fragment: many crimes are not reported.
"Anyone who asks for the reasons for the surge in weapons purchases encounters silence." — Süddeutsche Zeitung
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