General Election 2015: Voting intentions & general discussion

[mrmistoffelees]

Chris, I probably will spoil my ballot.

Another thing in an election that is apparently so close there has been no canvassers to my door, and one leaflet from the labour party.

[denphone]

Well the wonderful choice we have is the devil , the head with two devils and the head with three devils plus that lot called UKIP so a lot of thinking will needs to be done.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I think you're spot on with that analysis Unfortunately they all seem to damage multiple areas.

We need a major overhaul of the political system in this country.

One of the things I hate most however, I was sat watching the local news the other night and there was an article interviewing people asking about how they would vote. One woman said 'I don't know who to vote for, no one has told me anything'

How about finding out for yourself you retarded bint !!!!!!!

So true. I'm sick and tired of people claiming ignorance when they all have mobile phones with the means (if they could only divert them from social media for more than a nanosecond) to educate themselves about anything. These people don't lack the means, what they lack is the will to learn, the desire to find out. For the vast majority of us, there's really no reason to be ignorant today - there are no excuses.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Osem

So true. I'm sick and tired of people claiming ignorance when they all have mobile phones with the means (if they could only divert them from social media for more than a nanosecond) to educate themselves about anything. These people don't lack the means, what they lack is the will to learn, the desire to find out. For the vast majority of us, there's really no reason to be ignorant today - there are no excuses.

Well there is, there's the latest level of candy crush to be completed, or, ooh look a video of a cat flying a helicopter.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I do not like it when vandalism hit the Tories posters, in Great Yarmouth. But not being nasty, what does the Conservative people in that area expect.

I go to Yarmouth each year on Hols, and l see quite a lot of people who are down on there luck. I watched a recent documentary on GY. And it sadden me of what the area has turned out to be. There were queues of people looking for seasonal work, as that's all that going

So what do the Tories want, you cannot support the rich and treat the poor as they don't exist.

GY, as some stall holder told me once, that once the holiday season goes, the town is like ghost town, and no work

I am a great believer in the fact that there are plenty of Industrial Estates there, but you have to pay decent wages to get work.

I am just glad l didn't move there three years ago, as l would still be unemployed

The Conservatives are creating more jobs than ever before and they are bringing about a situation whereby nobody earning the minimum wage will pay tax.

They do need to encourage the rich to come and to stay in this country, because they are the wealth creators, without whom we would not be able to pay the generous benefits this country is renowned for.

Labour have no idea. They will frighten away those with money, they will demotivate those who work hard and tax us all half to death. They really are a bankrupt party both in their lack of ideas and in terms of the legislation they pass when they govern.

Personally, I care very much about the plight of the poor, but the Tories are the best party to deal with that. Contrary to the beliefs of the Socialists.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Apparently all the girls think Ed is hot.

at least the desperate ones do.

He's not hot. He's just constantly in a cold sweat.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Well there is, there's the latest level of candy crush to be completed, or, ooh look a video of a cat flying a helicopter.

Yup but ask them who's PM and they haven't got a bloody clue what PM stands for let alone who's doing the job.

These same people all too often say stuff like "I can't afford to feed my kids...." blah, blah, blah... when they've made zero effort t find out how easy it is to produce a quick, cheap, simple and nutritious meal. Funny how they seem to have money for takeaways, nail jobs, hairdos, fags, booze, nights out etc. whilst their kids are supposedly starving however...

Thinking for themselves is just too much effort for these people, far easier to wait for someone to chuck more money and support at them to further reduce their need to think and act responsibly.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The past five years have been good to me in terms of career progression, the amount of money I've had in my back pocket

The NHS has been brilliant helping me with the nervous breakdown I suffered and my subsequent recovery. The police ditto

Despite this I just bring myself to vote, there are no candidates who are worthy of leading the people of this nation. No parties whose views I can fully align myself with.

Well the party who will reward hard work, look after the NHS and ensure our money is well spent is the Conservative party.

They may not be in their best reincarnation at the present time, but they are the best we've got. If you don't vote for them, you'll let the others in. Don't say you weren't warned!

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Originally Posted by Chris

And yet, one of those candidates *will* lead the nation.

Better to have your say and pick the least worst, rather than abstaining, surely?

At the very least, attend your polling station and spoil your ballot. Spoils are counted and the total read out. It's the nearest you can get to officially registering your distaste for the choice presented you.

It won't prevent your worst nightmare getting in if you spoil your ballot paper though, will it Chris?

[Osem]

BREAKING NEWS

It's being reported that Nigel Farage has demanded an inquiry by the Electoral Commission into why Cable Forum's mini poll icon shows the 'blue' Tories well ahead despite the fact that the forum's own vote shows them sharing the lead with UKIP on 15 votes each.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What a strange perspective you hold of the 1990s! Anyway, this was some 25 years ago and I really can't summon up the mental strength today to debate history.

The plain fact is that the Coalition Government have sorted out the worst financial crisis ever caused by a succession of Labour Governments who decided to raid all the pension pots, sell the gold and spend all the money they inherited on the most amazing spending spree which saw benefits claimants getting as much money as senior managers!

I think the difference between Labour and Conservatives is extremely stark and you will have to make your mind up whether you want to go back to square one (2010) or whether you want the improvements we are now witnessing to be built upon.

We can be doing well again in five years, or we can be impoverished. The choice, I guess, is ours.

No not a strange perspective it's called facts and it might be twenty five years ago but it's the last time the tories formed a government, that should tell you something about what a grand job they made of it and for the record I've never voted labour, this time won't be any different.

[mrmistoffelees]

The coalition sorted out the financial crisis did they?

I'd like to see proof of this

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Osem

BREAKING NEWS

It's being reported that Nigel Farage has demanded an inquiry by the Electoral Commission into why Cable Forum's mini poll icon shows the 'blue' Tories well ahead despite the fact that the forum's own vote shows them sharing the lead with UKIP on 15 votes each.

One thing you are forgetting with any poll be it the CF poll or opinion polls Osem is the deceitful voter who says one thing and does another.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by denphone

One thing you are forgetting with any poll be it the CF poll or opinion polls Osem is the deceitful voter who says one thing and does another.

What you mean like the various parties do?...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Osem

What you mean like the various parties do?...

You got it in one Sir and first prize today is a coach trip with your favourite politician whoever that is.

[Osem]

On the subject of Labour's unswerving support for the poor, another thread reminded me of this from the last Labour 'Govt'.

More than one million owners of older cars will see their road tax double over the next two years under the Government's controversial "green" car tax reforms.

Used car prices plummet in buyers' market
In full: New tax bands | Fair deal for drivers
Your View: Has Labour forgotten the poor?

Official figures, obtained by The Daily Telegraph, disclose that 1.1 million motorists who bought their cars between 2001 and 2006 will pay more than £400 annually in duty - compared to £210 or less now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ar-owners.html

Yep, that would have helped the poor such a lot eh - just like abolishing the 10p tax band...

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well the party who will reward hard work, look after the NHS and ensure our money is well spent is the Conservative party.

They may not be in their best reincarnation at the present time, but they are the best we've got. If you don't vote for them, you'll let the others in. Don't say you weren't warned!

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It won't prevent your worst nightmare getting in if you spoil your ballot paper though, will it Chris?

No it won't. For those that absolutely cannot, with a clear conscience, support anyone, it is, however, a better option than simply sitting at home. The candidates hear the total of spoiled ballots and in a marginal seat they will know that the people who are politically engaged enough to turn up and write a poem, or draw a picture, had a vote up for grabs but withheld it. (it is often possible for the candidates representatives at the count to see what is on the papers in the spoiled pile)

15 million people who never vote will never change anything. 15 million people turning up and deliberately failing to support any candidate, show that they are engaged, listening, and waiting for something better. That might, just, in the long run, make a difference.

Not that it'll happen. They'd rather stay home, watch Jeremy Kyle and complain nobody told them anything, while sharing the latest alcohol-related meme on their Facebook wall.