General Election 2015: Voting intentions & general discussion

[Dave42]

UKIP candidate sparks outrage by 'calling for compulsory abortion of any foetus with Down's syndrome or spina bifida'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...na-bifida.html

what a **** nasty party how can anyone vote from them

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Dave42

UKIP candidate sparks outrage by 'calling for compulsory abortion of any foetus with Down's syndrome or spina bifida'

i'm sure these people are a plant.
like they're not really on their side. and wait for an opportune moment to come out with these one liners.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I wouldn't say at all that John Major left the economy in a mess; Labour inherited a buoyant economy from the Conservatives, as they normally do. Compare this to the near disaster Thatcher inherited from Callaghan in 1979, when Britain was the poor man of Europe.

And again, when the current Government took over from Brown, we all know there was no money left.

The reality is that to have a successful Government delivering socialist policies, you need a good economy, which means not driving away the rich. Labour and the Scottish Nationalists will never learn!

Major certainly didn't leave the economy in a mess. It was buoyant, and growing. Gordon Brown was confident enough in it to stick to Tory spending plans when he took over.

The calamity of the early 90s was entirely caused by our disastrous entry and inevitable exit from the ERM, whose only saving grace has been that it has made it politically impossible for us to be dragged into the Euro, despite Tony Blair's insane desire to do just that.

IIRC, on the question of the single currency, Major's preference was for a parallel currency, based on the notional European Currency Unit, what he called the "hard ECU". Exactly how involved he was in pushing us into ERM I don't know; I think it is generally accepted, however, that the Prime Minister at the time, Margaret Thatcher, was not in favour, but was at the end of her tenure and no longer able to resist the pressure from Europhiles in her cabinet.

[Osem]

Bloody hell - if Major's Tories left the economy in a mess how many times worse was what Brown left behind after all that 'prudence' and 'oversight' he rammed down our throats at every opportunity? I'm afraid anyone who equates the two scenarios is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Some folks do like to try to rewrite history but fortunately there are some here who aren't going to let that happen...

---------- Post added at 13:54 ---------- Previous post was at 13:51 ----------

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I wouldn't say at all that John Major left the economy in a mess; Labour inherited a buoyant economy from the Conservatives, as they normally do. Compare this to the near disaster Thatcher inherited from Callaghan in 1979, when Britain was the poor man of Europe.

And again, when the current Government took over from Brown, we all know there was no money left.

The reality is that to have a successful Government delivering socialist policies, you need a good economy, which means not driving away the rich. Labour and the Scottish Nationalists will never learn!

Too true!

[richard s]

I always thought J Major was bland, boring man - then there was the Edwina affair, naughty John!

Then there was Ted Heath's short reign.

There is a strange coincidence whenever the Tory Knobs are in power ....RIOTS...

Originally Posted by richard s

I always thought J Major was bland, boring man - then there was the Edwina affair, naughty John!

Then there was Ted Heath's short reign.

There is a strange coincidence whenever the Tory Knobs are in power ....RIOTS...

Exactly. When Tories are in opposition, their support base prefers to make the argument and win the next election.

When Labour are in opposition, their client groups and hangers-on are prone to taking to the streets.

There's nothing like a good old Trotskyite mass strike for breathing new life into a democracy, eh? Or wasters and dole scroungers chucking their house brick sized sense of entitlement through the window of the nearest Currys.

Originally Posted by richard s

I always thought J Major was bland, boring man - then there was the Edwina affair, naughty John!

Then there was Ted Heath's short reign.

There is a strange coincidence whenever the Tory Knobs are in power ....RIOTS...

Obviously, these were time-travelling rioters, then......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Bradford_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Harehills_riot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_na...rthern_Ireland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_UEFA_Cup_Final_riots

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Chris

Exactly. When Tories are in opposition, their support base prefers to make the argument and win the next election.

When Labour are in opposition, their client groups and hangers-on are prone to taking to the streets.

There's nothing like a good old Trotskyite mass strike for breathing new life into a democracy, eh? Or wasters and dole scroungers chucking their house brick sized sense of entitlement through the window of the nearest Currys.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Dave42

UKIP candidate sparks outrage by 'calling for compulsory abortion of any foetus with Down's syndrome or spina bifida'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...na-bifida.html

labour are a **** nasty party how can anyone vote from them

where do these reporters drag these stories up from whenever an election is looming

[denphone]

The stalemate of the opinion polls continues.

http://news.channel4.com/election201...1/update-3487/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...test-poll.html

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Chris

Exactly. When Tories are in opposition, their support base prefers to make the argument and win the next election.

When Labour are in opposition, their client groups and hangers-on are prone to taking to the streets.

There's nothing like a good old Trotskyite mass strike for breathing new life into a democracy, eh? Or wasters and dole scroungers chucking their house brick sized sense of entitlement through the window of the nearest Currys.

Hyperbole alert! Nice to see Tories have "supporters" but Labour have "hangers-on, wasters and dole scroungers" ...

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Labour have "hangers-on, wasters and dole scroungers" ...

Naturally.

I've never met a waster or a dole scrounger who was also an avowed Tory, put it that way.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

where do these reporters drag these stories up from whenever an election is looming

would you rather not know about these extreme people with absolutely shocking views

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Obviously, these were time-travelling rioters, then......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Bradford_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Harehills_riot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_na...rthern_Ireland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_UEFA_Cup_Final_riots

Yes, odd that eh?

Dyed in the wool Labour supporters often have a very tenuous grasp on reality - which is why they tend to make stuff up...