The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years

[Taf]

With only a few days to go, a neighbour has been done for "failure to display a valid tax disk" even though they had bought a new one at the end of last month.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Taf

With only a few days to go, a neighbour has been done for "failure to display a valid tax disk" even though they had bought a new one at the end of last month.

Haha, he should have waiting until October 1st.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Scrapping the discs could cost 167 million pounds a year, that's some saving we made there

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/512...-Treasury-167m

"could" is the operative word there a bit of speculation by the RAC .What it will mean is that uninsured drivers will not be able to buy a car with tax on it because the tax stays with the owner/seller so someone buying a car will have to take insurance before they can tax it

[papa smurf]

will we still get a reminder in the post that the tax is about to expire ?

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think they know this already.

they will make money by thousands of cars being sold mid month. so where it's already been paid for. the new owner will have to pay for a whole new month. so DVLA will have extra money from that.

The unused VED stays with the seller .So if i sell a car to you i can either get a refund or transfer the remaining tax onto a new car .It has never been possible to get refunds for partial months .The biggest improvement will be the introduction of Direct Debit monthly payments helping people spread the cost of buying tax over the year

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

will we still get a reminder in the post that the tax is about to expire ?

Yes,or you can set up a DD to pay monthly and simply keep it active ,this will also have the effect of scrapping the surcharge if you choose pay 6 monthly by DD

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

The unused VED stays with the seller .So if i sell a car to you i can either get a refund or transfer the remaining tax onto a new car .It has never been possible to get refunds for partial months .The biggest improvement will be the introduction of Direct Debit monthly payments helping people spread the cost of buying tax over the year

It doesn't. you'll automatically get a refund on the tax. but only full months. (full months were the same as before. when you returned the disc) now when you sell a car on say the 15th Oct. the new buyer will have to buy from the 1st Oct. so there's 2 weeks money that was paid for before. when you sold the car. which has to be paid again. the idea being that cars will be sold mid month. which is where they make millions. if not billions in revenue. where before they couldn't if the tax was (transferred) sold with the car to the new owner.

the transfer is the main objective of this scam.

Why don't we all just sell/buy our cars at the end of the month and foil their cunning plan?

Meanwhile, back at Mr Reality's house, there are 29 million cars in the UK at this time - if 20% of these are bought/sold every year, and the average car tax rate is £300 (estimating on the high side), that means that 6 million X monthly refund amount(£300 /12 = £25), means that approx. £150 million per year - probably more likely to be around £100 million. So not billions...... Around a fiver for every car in the UK each year - less than a gallon of petrol per car.....

[alanbjames]

Originally Posted by Taf

With only a few days to go, a neighbour has been done for "failure to display a valid tax disk" even though they had bought a new one at the end of last month.

Funny u should say this my dad had one of these last month and his tax disc IS on display and isn't up until end of March 2015.

He rang the DVLA and stated clearly that the tax disc is on display, the tax disc is a disabled tax disc on a disability car that he had April 1st this year and they told him disregard the letter.

[TheDaddy]

They've run out of tax discs now anyway, my pal said he'd got something that looked suspiciously like a photo copy sent out for him to use for the next few days

Originally Posted by Gary L

the new buyer will have to buy from the 1st Oct.

That has always been the case if the seller wants a refund and the buyer has to tax the car ,it's always been that the tax is purchased from the 1st of the month .
I wasn't aware that any refund was automatic ,that being the case then DVLA will most likely stand to lose as most cars sold will be on dealer forecourts who won't have to tax the vehicles and the refund will triggered as soon as the owner notifies DVLA of the change of ownership

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Why don't we all just sell/buy our cars at the end of the month and foil their cunning plan?

You're learning.

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Originally Posted by martyh

That has always been the case if the seller wants a refund and the buyer has to tax the car ,it's always been that the tax is purchased from the 1st of the month .

I know that. but now because you can't transfer the tax to the new owner. 2 weeks tax will be paid for but lost. as the new owner can't have the 2 weeks remaining. he has to pay for a whole new 4.

if you still don't get it. just leave it

Originally Posted by Gary L

I know that. but now because you can't transfer the tax to the new owner. 2 weeks tax will be paid for but lost. as the new owner can't have the 2 weeks remaining. he has to pay for a whole new 4. if you still don't get it. just leave it

Which has always been the case when buying an untaxed car ,it's not a scam or a way for DVLA to get more money in fact they will most likely neither gain nor lose as most cars are sold through the trade .
Seeing the fuss this has caused what will people do next year when the paper counterpart for licences is abolished

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

Which has always been the case when buying an untaxed car ,

We're not talking about an untaxed car. and no I'm not shouting.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Gary L

We're not talking about an untaxed car. and no I'm not shouting.

For the people who state 'facts' but are wrong. there's a 5% surcharge if you pay by direct debit. (probably rise to around 10% not long after launch)

Hold on, doesn’t that mean that if I sell my car in the middle of a month then the new owner and I will both end up paying tax for that month?

Yes, unfortunately.

and this one is funny.

If my car doesn’t have a tax disc, how will the authorities know that I have paid?

Your tax details will be registered with the DVLA so they will be aware which cars are taxed correctly. Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) devices will be around to catch out any cars that aren’t taxed appropriately.

Just like they do now with uninsured drivers. cars with no MOT.

Have they made it so I can't grass somebody up for driving a car with no TAX?

Yes.

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/tax-....vbf4m4zQ.dpuf

[arcimedes]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Have they made it so I can't grass somebody up for driving a car with no TAX?

No just a bit more difficult. You can go on gov.uk and look up a reg no and the car make and see if its taxed and MOT'd

I've done it in a car park while waiting for my wife to finish shopping