The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
03-09-2014, 10:40
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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My point is a tax disc of a parked car provides a myriad of information about the vehicle and can prompt further digging
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Specifically?
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03-09-2014, 10:45
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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Specifically?
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It will show if the car is running on cloned plates for a start. It also can give indications of where the car has been that can prompt further questioning, give clues about the existence or otherwise of insurance and give rise to questions / intelligence about the driver that lead to other crimes.
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03-09-2014, 10:56
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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And how does the cop decide which car to do a check on? If only there was some form of visual way to check, maybe a small paper disc that could be displayed in the windscreen.
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Maybe the will spend their time catching real criminals instead of looking for an easy catch with motorists.
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03-09-2014, 10:58
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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Maybe the will spend their time catching real criminals instead of looking for an easy catch with motorists.
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Uh huh. Because a check of a car has never turned up drugs, weapons or that the car is stolen.
Unless they aren't real crimes in your eyes of course.
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03-09-2014, 11:01
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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Originally Posted by Derek
It will show if the car is running on cloned plates for a start. It also can give indications of where the car has been that can prompt further questioning, give clues about the existence or otherwise of insurance and give rise to questions / intelligence about the driver that lead to other crimes.
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What does a tax disc record about the driver? Answer: Nothing.
What does a tax disc record about the car's *current* insurance status? Answer: Nothing.
And as for the validation stamp from the post office indicating where a car's been, that's nonsense since on line taxation came in as all online tax discs have the same stamp.
And as for cloned plates, do you really think someone using cloned plates would bother with valid tax in the first place?
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Uh huh. Because a check of a car has never turned up drugs, weapons or that the car is stolen.
Unless they aren't real crimes in your eyes of course.
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And what fires off most of these "checks"?
Is it Dixon of Dock Green checking the tax discs of parked cars?
Or is it the ringing bells of the car mounted ANPR kit checking cars as they go past...
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03-09-2014, 13:42
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
Im quite sure someone will soon make an "ANPR" app, so you just point your phone at the number plate, click on a button, and it checks it with the online sites. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if such an app already existed (I have not searched).
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03-09-2014, 13:59
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
Some companies already get lots of info from the DVLA's databases... for a fee of course.
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03-09-2014, 14:47
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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What does a tax disc record about the driver? Answer: Nothing.
What does a tax disc record about the car's *current* insurance status? Answer: Nothing.
And as for cloned plates, do you really think someone using cloned plates would bother with valid tax in the first place?
And what fires off most of these "checks"?
Is it Dixon of Dock Green checking the tax discs of parked cars?
Or is it the ringing bells of the car mounted ANPR kit checking cars as they go past...
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I'll tell you what, when you have a clue come back and we can talk further.
If you really need it spelt out for you I will.
When a car gets stolen it currently has a tax disc with the correct VRM on it. The thieves then can put stolen or cloned plates on the car.
This means the car can sail through as many ANPR checks as it wants. It can also pass most police checks unless the cop starts checking VIN numbers.
However if during a stop check or when walking past a cop notices the VRM of the car and tax disc don't match then alarm bells start ringing.
They also provide CLUES about a host of other things.
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03-09-2014, 14:59
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
And of course no-one's ever printed up a false tax disc to go with the false plates...
And when was the last time you saw a copper walking up a street checking discs?
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03-09-2014, 20:24
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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Originally Posted by rhyds
And of course no-one's ever printed up a false tax disc to go with the false plates... And when was the last time you saw a copper walking up a street checking discs?
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I'll hazard a guess that Derek has actually done so. 
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03-09-2014, 21:50
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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I'll hazard a guess that Derek has actually done so. |
Made up a fake tax disc? Well it easier now that the ones through the post aren't even being supplied on perforated paper after the DVLA ran out!
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03-09-2014, 22:29
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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I'll hazard a guess that Derek has actually done so. |
Well not recently but certainly in he past and got some cracking results too. 
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Made up a fake tax disc? Well it easier now that the ones through the post aren't even being supplied on perforated paper after the DVLA ran out!
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As I've said before fake tax discs are rare. Good quality ones are even rarer, most criminals aren't that bothered about covering their tracks past the most cursory efforts.
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27-09-2014, 11:35
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
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Scrapping the discs could cost 167 million pounds a year, that's some saving we made there
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I think they know this already.
they will make money by thousands of cars being sold mid month. so where it's already been paid for. the new owner will have to pay for a whole new month. so DVLA will have extra money from that.
the illegal cars coming out will have to buy petrol. so money will be made from that.
many more cars will be cloned.
it will be harder to buy and sell a car now.
before people would buy a car that had a few months tax left on it. reason was that they didn't want to register the car, bought it as a run around. or just spur of the moment purchase.
now they will think twice.
less crime for the police to do. so cutting the amount of police won't matter as much.
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27-09-2014, 11:59
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Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
that old Guinness label has served me well for years
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