'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated

Maggy, there are "educators" of equal experience to your own in Catholic and C of E schools all over this country - and they would disagree with you. The length of your experience working in schools is, frankly, besides the point. As an educator (is "teacher" out of fashion now?) you fulfil an obligation that is placed on the parents, not on yourself directly. And the parents have a right to choose the context for their children's upbringing, education being part of that.

Originally Posted by Chris

Oddly enough, those who have been blogging and drawing attention to this for months were amongst the first to predict that the BBC would try to play it down, now that the story has risen high enough up the news agenda they can't simply go on ignoring it - it really doesn't chime with the approved multi-culti agenda down at New Broadcasting House. If you're playing "buzzword bingo" with the news this evening, make sure you have the phrase "isolated incidents" on your card.

Everyone else is also reporting it as an unsigned letter. Also the BBC didn't play it down but stated that concerns were raised about the credibility of the unsigned plan but that it had led to a surge of complaints after the letter had been received. Sky News is reporting the same: http://news.sky.com/story/1242295/mu...s-investigated

We need to be careful about the faith we have in this document and I trust the BBC more than I trust bloggers.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Damien

We need to be careful about the faith we have in this document and I trust the BBC more than I trust bloggers.

I see what you did there Damien. Nice one.

Ah this is what the guy said on the BBC:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...5-schools.html

But it came as the council’s chief executive signalled that the original documents which triggered the investigation could be a hoax and community leaders warned of a perceived “witch hunt” against Muslims.

Not that the following on allegations are without merit nor that this letter is a hoax but there are still concerns over the letter and it's not the BBC but the council who are raising concerns.

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I see what you did there Damien. Nice one.

I don't see what I did. The faith bit? Unintentional if so....

Incidentally, accusations of a "witch hunt", specifically of the "islamophobic" variety, was another of the predictions made here this morning:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...eligious-bias/

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Chris

Incidentally, "witch hunt", specifically of the "islamophobic" variety, was another of the predictions made here this morning:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...eligious-bias/

Could we be witnessing a modern day "Revelations"?

I've always thought Damien's presence on this forum was an Omen of doom, personally ...

Originally Posted by Chris

Incidentally, accusations of a "witch hunt", specifically of the "islamophobic" variety, was another of the predictions made here this morning:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...eligious-bias/

So? People can make predictions all they want. The case is still being investigated and until something is proven then the BBC and The Telegraph are perfectly correct in reporting both the concerns of the authenticity of the letter and the counter-claims made by those in the Muslim community.

The predictions of a "witch hunt" weren't especially prescient since it would happen whether this story is true or false. The fact that you can predict that someone will claim innocence of the bad behaviour you're accusing them off doesn't reflect upon their guilt or innocence - you just predicted the obvious. At worst it's a cynical attempt to bias the coverage by ascribing anterior motives to what is actually just balanced reporting.

I mean it wouldn't the be first time a unsigned document purported to be an sinister plot from a group of religious zealots turned out to be fake now would it?

Originally Posted by Maggy J

That it has no place except to study religion as a whole subject in a subject based lesson and that students study comparative religious education.I don't think the ethos of one religion only should be allowed in any school..I think education should remain secular.

spoken like a true Atheist.

[Russ]

Maggie has never hidden the fact she's an atheist.

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by martyh

spoken like a true Atheist.

And?

Originally Posted by Russ

Maggie has never hidden the fact she's an atheist.

I know

Originally Posted by rhyds

And?

Atheists love to try and restrict everybody else to their way of thinking .Maggie wants a secular education system completely forgetting that education started with religion ,she also forgets that it is the parents who decide how their children are educated and as an 'educator' she should really know better than to try and stifle peoples rights with their children.There is room for both types of education ,secular and faith based ,no need at all for one party to try to usurp the other

[Russ]

Originally Posted by rhyds

And?

We don't hold it against you that you're an atheist. No, the issue is more that you're from North Wales

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Originally Posted by martyh

Some atheists love to try and restrict everybody else to their way of thinking .

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by Russ

We don't hold it against you that you're an atheist. No, the issue is more that you're from North Wales

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Fixed that for you.

quite right

Originally Posted by martyh

Atheists love to try and restrict everybody else to their way of thinking .Maggie wants a secular education system completely forgetting that education started with religion ,she also forgets that it is the parents who decide how their children are educated and as an 'educator' she should really know better than to try and stifle peoples rights with their children.There is room for both types of education ,secular and faith based ,no need at all for one party to try to usurp the other

Wanting a secular education system doesn't mean you want to stifle peoples right it just means you don't think it's the state's job to get involved with the teaching of religion.