28-06-2013, 21:05
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
It'll be banned for the following reason.
Miisleading.
They will no doubt have small print to go with it.
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28-06-2013, 21:35
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Originally Posted by Gary L
It'll be banned for the following reason.
Miisleading.
They will no doubt have small print to go with it.
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Have you seen the ads - no, so how come you come to that conclusion?
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28-06-2013, 21:40
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The Invisible Woman
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
I've already asked for people to stick to the topic.This also means that flaming and baiting are also OFF TOPIC as is name calling.
Getting rather fed up the same old nonsense all the time.If you don't like what others post PUT THEM ON IGNORE and make an effort to really ignore them.
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28-06-2013, 21:47
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
If you say you don't know if you have fibre or not and dont know who your provider is, the microsite still says your connection is slower than virgins fibre broadband, which in many cases would be a lie.
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Now you've had a chance to see what you've been missing with your current broadband, perhaps it's time to up your speeds and switch to Virgin Media superfast fibre optic broadband
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Don't think so
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28-06-2013, 21:47
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
Three off topic posts removed.Any more nonsense and infractions will be the result.
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01-07-2013, 18:31
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
Just seen the advert and reckon it will be banned because its comparison of other providers excludes fibre products (small print on bottom of ad), yet it is comparing it to its own fibre product and Bolt is wearing a Fibre t-shirt. Misleading!
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01-07-2013, 18:39
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Definitely pushing the boundaries or being misleading yet again. My money is on the ad getting banned 
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Want to take a small wager
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01-07-2013, 18:51
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Want to take a small wager
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Only a small one?
scared of losing your money are you?
it is funny when they have to put in the ad "excludes fibre products"
of course what they haven't mentioned was how big the film was. if it was any bigger than the one in the ad that took 6 seconds on cable compared to 24 seconds on ADSL, then I would say it could possibly hit the STM that would slow it down enough for ADSL (excludes fibre products) to race to the finish line first.
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02-07-2013, 12:59
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
Didn't seem misleading to me.Asdl is to be avoided here in favour of the faster cable network and as a means of NOT having a BT telephone.
Oh and I'd like to say that the reason I'm with VM is because back in the day(and even now) they provided a much more reliable landline service than any of the telcom providers back in the 80s.That hasn't changed in all these years and with all the different guises of Nynex,C&W,Ntl and VM.
Some people really should remember that NOT everyone gets a poor service from VM.That many are actually happy with the level of service they have from that company.
I'll also point out that any company would be mad to provide all the exceptions and less than perfect parts of their service in a TV ad.
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02-07-2013, 13:11
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
Maggy can you keep on-topic please. We are talking about the advert and not some telephone line or reliability you had donkey years ago. Nor do I understand your comment about everyone getting a poor service from VM as this also has nothing to do with the advert or discussion.
We were talking about the advert being misleading due to VM comparing the worst product a company can offer instead of comparing it against the fibre options like it is using as its own comparative.
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02-07-2013, 13:24
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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We were talking about the advert being misleading due to VM comparing the worst product a company can offer instead of comparing it against the fibre options like it is using as its own comparative.
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Then you know what to. Here is the link for you http://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-...orm/Step1.aspx
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And then, if you have made your complaint, we can wait until the ASA rule whether it's misleading or not, rather than doing so on here till the end of time
I, for one, would much prefer that
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02-07-2013, 13:29
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Maggy can you keep on-topic please. We are talking about the advert and not some telephone line or reliability you had donkey years ago. Nor do I understand your comment about everyone getting a poor service from VM as this also has nothing to do with the advert or discussion.
We were talking about the advert being misleading due to VM comparing the worst product a company can offer instead of comparing it against the fibre options like it is using as its own comparative.
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Oh I was on topic in the first sentence.I know what the ASDL provides in BB speeds compared to VM cable around here because I can check it out online.The reference to a BT line is because that was the reason I chose cable over Sky or BT and is completely relevant.
As for my being off topic perhaps you should apply that to your own postings around this site.
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02-07-2013, 13:30
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Then you know what to. Here is the link for you http://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-...orm/Step1.aspx
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And then, if you have made your complaint, we can wait until the ASA rule whether it's misleading or not, rather than doing so on here till the end of time
I, for one, would much prefer that 
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Well discussions forums generally... discuss things
Personally i'm not the sort to complain to Ofcom or the ASA but their decisions do interest me, as well as the discussions. I am certain some will make the complaint though.
As for what you prefer and trying to dictate that no one should discuss the topic until a decision...do you think you run this forum or something?
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02-07-2013, 13:37
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
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Originally Posted by Qtx
Well discussions forums generally... discuss things
Personally i'm not the sort to complain to Ofcom or the ASA but their decisions do interest me, as well as the discussions. I am certain some will make the complaint though.
As for what you prefer and trying to dictate that no one should discuss the topic until a decision...do you think you run this forum or something?
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Well with all due respect neither do you.
I however do find your attitude surprising about not complaining to Ofcom or the ASA considering you do so heavily believe the ad is misleading and leaving it to others..I'd have thought you would be the first to do so.
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03-07-2013, 10:27
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Re: Bolt vs Blot
IMO there is no need for individuals to complain about any advert as if it compares competitors unfavourably to the advertiser you can bet you bottom dollar that they will find something to complain about. I personally think that they will complain about this ad because to most viewers it is saying VM cable is better than other broadband when FTTC products can be shown to be better in some respects (jitter and upstream certainly and there are no ISP imposed speed restrictions either).
I'll probably stick with cable for now on a cost basis but I'm virtually certain that in my area FTTC would offer a better connection. Plus I hold Openreach in even lower regard than VM.
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