Superhub Superhub 2 - Page 18

bbxxl · 13-05-2013, 21:22

I want one

Sephiroth · 13-05-2013, 21:33

When I got Infinity,m I also got a HomeHub 2. A month later, BT brought out the HomeHub 3 (with the best wireless ever). I assure you, i didn't want one! I put an ASUS RT-N56U on instead.

IMO, so should it be with the SH - modem mode.

bbxxl · 13-05-2013, 22:04

I was just looking at the RT-N66U but if I thought I could get a SH2 soon I would hold off getting one.

Sephiroth · 13-05-2013, 22:12

Although the SH2 is an improvement on the SH1, it is still a device with a single CPU and the more they put into firmware, the more processor cycles are stolen from handling data efficiently. Sort of thing.

Modem mode (in either SH1 or SH2) leaves the SH CPU for the DOCSIS side and a minimum of routing to the single switch port and your ASUS router CPU can deal with the rest.

Really simples.

SnoopZ · 13-05-2013, 23:53

That SH2 photo looks the same as mine apart from the leds are blue and mine doesn't have the Virgin logo on the front.

Kushan · 13-05-2013, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Although the SH2 is an improvement on the SH1, it is still a device with a single CPU and the more they put into firmware, the more processor cycles are stolen from handling data efficiently. Sort of thing.

Modem mode (in either SH1 or SH2) leaves the SH CPU for the DOCSIS side and a minimum of routing to the single switch port and your ASUS router CPU can deal with the rest.

Really simples.

Don't even the likes of the RT-N66U have only one processor? And I thought the modem part was a dedicated chip? I may be wrong about that one, of course.

I do think the SH2 does sound like what Virgin truly needs. They don't need to have an all-singing-all-dancing device, anyone that needs more than simple wireless connectivity is going to want a dedicated router anyway - all VM needs is a device that gives good wireless coverage and is stable. The SH1 couldn't do that, but the SH2 does look to be the business.

As I said, anyone who needs anything beyond good wireless coverage is going to want a dedicated router, everyone else should be happy enough.

Sephiroth · 14-05-2013, 00:32

Hi Kush

The DOCSIS chip just handles the tuned data stream (bonded channels in both directions) - like resequencing what arrives on the downstream and hands it all over to the rest of the SH functions. The DOCSIS chip requires drivers that are processed in the CPU during hand off in both directions. The CPU has to process all the routed data from all sources. It also handles the messaging stuff like the GUI, the LEDs, buffers, router policies ....

If you split the CPU work between two devices, then the SH has an easier time.

It's going a bit far, IMHO, to say that the SH2 is "what Virgin truly needs". What they truly need, if a combo devie be the mandate, is a device that isn't going to get into a knot when it has too much to do.

At the moment, the SH2 isn't "truly" stable. Bearing in mind that the triallists are a small number, the proportion of reports that T4 events are occurring is high; very high - though not at all oin modem mode. If VM get this sorted, then maybe we're heading towards your "truly" aspiration.

And, to buck it all, my SH2 (still) in router mode with wireless on hasn't rebooted in weeks. The T4 events just stopped. Entirely stable!!! But then so was my SH1.

Kushan · 14-05-2013, 00:48

Thanks for the explanation, Seph, very nice.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that it was 100% perfect now, just that it's off to a pretty good start. The kinds of issues people are having seem to be down to firmware, there's no evidence that the CPU is struggling just yet that I've seen. There's definitely a visible difference between modem mode and router mode but this seems to be the case even under light loads so I think something else in in play here.

Either way, it's a marked improvement at least and I think most people will be happy enough with it. Power users will always want more, so at least they had the sense to include modem mode.

14-05-2013, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D

Virgin Media is set to launch a next-generation wireless broadband router.

The new Super Hub is currently being tested by a number of customers, ahead of a full launch in the coming weeks.

Virgin Media says the router boasts maximum speeds even faster than BT’s new Home Hub 4, thanks to an extra antenna on the 5GHz channel.

This improves both range and speed, the broadband provider stated.

"Powered by the latest dual band technology, [our] new Super Hub will enable concurrent access to both the 5GHz and 2.4GHz wireless channels," Virgin Media claimed.

The router will also deliver "unrivalled connectivity" throughout customers’ homes, it stated.

Last month, Virgin Media announced that it had added 25,500 new broadband subscribers during the first three months of 2013.

This took the firm's broadband customer base to 4,490,500.

http://www.uswitch.com/broadband/new...er_hub_router/

This could well be what it looks like

According to my Tech mate this is the super hub 2. This is the mass produced model.

Dark Fiber · 14-05-2013, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Risco

Are the lights less bright? Secondly does it support AFP ( apple file protocol )? Does it support HFS+?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yes, no & no.

Sephiroth, can you clarify?
AFP hasn't been a significant problem for consumer routers for the last ten years (although in the early days they sometimes needed firmware upgrades to pass it from wired to wireless).
As for HFS+ the only relevance would be for storage- do you know something about the USB port that we don't?

TAZMANUK · 14-05-2013, 15:51

The sh2 is a major improvement specially on my connection im glad i was apart of the testing.

Sephiroth · 14-05-2013, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Dark Fiber

Sephiroth, can you clarify?
AFP hasn't been a significant problem for consumer routers for the last ten years (although in the early days they sometimes needed firmware upgrades to pass it from wired to wireless).
As for HFS+ the only relevance would be for storage- do you know something about the USB port that we don't?

It was a careless answer, sorry. The lights are sorted with three settings available in the menu.

The protocols - what I should have said is that there is no claim made for the Apple protocols. Anything you want me to try?

Dark Fiber · 14-05-2013, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Anything you want me to try?

An AFP connection using wireless-to wired- if you have the kit, e.g. a laptop Mac to a desktop Mac or a compatible NAS.
That would set our minds at rest

Taf · 14-05-2013, 19:11

Maybe VM should check out these finding?

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Spanish research has shown that blue LED light can irreparably damage the cells in the eye's retina

It's from the Mail, but it could be unhyped.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...BLINDNESS.html

BenMcr · 14-05-2013, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Taf

Maybe VM should check out these finding?

It's from the Mail, but it could be unhyped.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...BLINDNESS.html

Don't see why it's a VM specific thing - that article says it's ALL LED lights