General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 2. - Page 88

johnasimmons · 13-05-2013, 16:29

I think we all must admit that Sky Atlantic is now The Holy Grail for VM users

**Maggy** · 13-05-2013, 16:39

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I think we all must admit that Sky Atlantic is now The Holy Grail for VM users

Except those of us who read the first book with tremendous difficulty and couldn't get into the second one despite our friend's assertion it was a terrific set of books.
I can live without Atlantic as most of the stuff that appears on Sky's premier channel will eventually get shown on another channel when either cancelled or no longer watched by the majority of Sky customers.It's happened time and time again when Sky one was their top channel.

Media Boy UK · 13-05-2013, 16:43

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I think we all must admit that Sky Atlantic is now The Holy Grail for VM users

I still say that Sky Atlantic is just an rebrand of Bravo!!!

Sky just has to stop broadcasting for 31days to call it an new channel.

johnasimmons · 13-05-2013, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Except those of us who read the first book with tremendous difficulty and couldn't get into the second one despite our friend's assertion it was a terrific set of books.
I can live without Atlantic as most of the stuff that appears on Sky's premier channel will eventually get shown on another channel when either cancelled or no longer watched by the majority of Sky customers.It's happened time and time again when Sky one was their top channel.

Good point

Henkesghost · 13-05-2013, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

I still say that Sky Atlantic is just an rebrand of Bravo!!!

Sky just has to stop broadcasting for 31days to call it an new channel.

No comparison whatsoever

weegiegeek · 13-05-2013, 16:58

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I still think something will come out of Sky Broadband using VM's cable system for some of their BB - but that is in my opinion and not something I know for a fact

Not sure I'd heard about this, can you link me to something please?

jst · 13-05-2013, 17:04

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Originally Posted by BexTech

Many people were saying Sky wouldn't succeed when they first started up and they made losses for many years.

I don't subscribe to Sky Sports as to me it's way too much money, don't subscribe to Sky Movies either, again too much money. Not saying I can't afford to pay, I just refuse the rip-off prices as not value for money.

How can you say that it's not value for money..........how many football, rugby and cricket games can you watch in a month....away and talk some sense!

colin25 · 13-05-2013, 17:11

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How can you say that it's not value for money..........how many football, rugby and cricket games can you watch in a month....away and talk some sense!

depends on what you value.

and whether you wish to pay...so his point of view is valid for him

BexTech · 13-05-2013, 17:11

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Originally Posted by weegiegeek

Not sure I'd heard about this, can you link me to something please?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...eal-sky-sports

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5...or-faster.html

weegiegeek · 13-05-2013, 17:39

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Originally Posted by BexTech

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...eal-sky-sports

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5...or-faster.html

Gotcha. From the Guardian piece:

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Virgin announced Wednesday that it had struck a deal to rent its fibre 'backhaul' to the satellite group, helping carry internet traffic across its core network, although not as far as customers' homes, for which Sky still relies on BT.

Must admit I wasn't aware of this. If anything, I'd have expected the opposite - VM renting backhaul from BT, since large parts of VM's network are currently overloaded.

Mad Max · 13-05-2013, 19:14

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I still say that Sky Atlantic is just an rebrand of Bravo!!!

How the heck do you come to that conclusion?

13-05-2013, 19:52

Not one show on Bravo is on Sky Atlantic so I haven't a clue what he's talking about.

colin25 · 13-05-2013, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Not one show on Bravo is on Sky Atlantic so I haven't a clue what he's talking about.

Sniffing something, but must be strong stuff

Chad · 13-05-2013, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Not one show on Bravo is on Sky Atlantic so I haven't a clue what he's talking about.

If Danny Dire ever pops up in an episode of Game of Thrones I'll rip my dish off the wall

Bananaman_007 · 13-05-2013, 20:26

I think what MB was trying to say was Bravo closed so Atlantic could launch. In doing this Sky launched a new channel which they did not have to supply to Virgin. If Bravo had continued, i would imagine it would have still been on Virgin.

By creating Atlantic and not putting the shows on Bravo, Sky created some further leverage over Virgin. Virgin should have put some kind of deal in the agreement, stating that if Sky launched any new channels in the next year Virgin would be able to carry them at the same rate they were paying for the other Sky channels currently.

Before it closed, heavy focus was on Bravo, buying in some big US imports, that were pulling good numbers for the channel. All of the new program budget from Challenge was moved into Bravo. Combine this with the female orientated Living which Sky had tried to replicate and failed and they knew they had to buy them up even if it was to close some of the channels to stop anybody else getting their hands on them and building upon the growing Bravo and Living brands.