UK unemployment increases to 2.64m

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Pog66, It was a centre fold in The Daily Mirror the other day.....
..... if l am wrong tell me.

A good start would be to stop reading that toilet paper and read something approaching a real newspaper. You'll then get a viewpoint somewhat closer to the real world and not need to ask people on a forum if you're wrong.

[Alan Fry]

To reduce unemployment, the government could start a development bank, and spend more

And how would they fund the Development Bank, please?

[Gary L]

Cut something.

if it's already been cut, then cut it some more.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Cut something.

if it's already been cut, then cut it some more.

Not sure you can do that when its already been cut to the bone Gary.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Cut something.

if it's already been cut, then cut it some more.

Sounds good, time for the NHS to feel some pain.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Sounds good, time for the NHS to feel some pain.

And in what areas are you proposing for these cuts to happen in the NHS.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

To reduce unemployment, the government could start a development bank, and spend more

Or they could just hire a million extra public sector workers given how superbly it worked during the Labour government.

I'm sure our kids won't mind picking up the bill, failing that I'm sure people won't mind seeing their taxes shoot up even further punishing people yet more for being rude enough to be productive.

Halting all cuts and spending more should only require about a 25% increase on total tax burden.

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Originally Posted by denphone

And in what areas are you proposing for these cuts to happen in the NHS.

The areas that Labour threw money at which caused the value the NHS delivers for the money spent on it to actually drop.

Bringing in a nice 3rd party private sector management consultancy with the ability to hire and fire pretty much as they see fit rather than leaving self-serving middle-management cutting front line services to keep their own jobs should work.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And how would they fund the Development Bank, please?

with money gained after a massive crackdown on tax evation, which is worth tens of billions each year

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Or they could just hire a million extra public sector workers given how superbly it worked during the Labour government.

I'm sure our kids won't mind picking up the bill, failing that I'm sure people won't mind seeing their taxes shoot up even further punishing people yet more for being rude enough to be productive.

Halting all cuts and spending more should only require about a 25% increase on total tax burden.

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The areas that Labour threw money at which caused the value the NHS delivers for the money spent on it to actually drop.

Bringing in a nice 3rd party private sector management consultancy with the ability to hire and fire pretty much as they see fit rather than leaving self-serving middle-management cutting front line services to keep their own jobs should work.

I was think about speding more of transport porjects, like more new trains, more high speed lines, better airports etc

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Or they could just hire a million extra public sector workers given how superbly it worked during the Labour government.

I'm sure our kids won't mind picking up the bill, failing that I'm sure people won't mind seeing their taxes shoot up even further punishing people yet more for being rude enough to be productive.

Halting all cuts and spending more should only require about a 25% increase on total tax burden.

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The areas that Labour threw money at which caused the value the NHS delivers for the money spent on it to actually drop.

Bringing in a nice 3rd party private sector management consultancy with the ability to hire and fire pretty much as they see fit rather than leaving self-serving middle-management cutting front line services to keep their own jobs should work.

l am all for cutting middle-management to protect front line services but there is only so much you can cut in the end.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by denphone

l am all for cutting middle-management to protect front line services but there is only so much you can cut in the end.

Indeed, doesn't change that there is something to cut and ring fencing it for political reasons, to the detriment of other less politically sensitive services, is very wrong.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I was think about speding more of transport porjects, like more new trains, more high speed lines, better airports etc

It's happening?

I take it you missed where George Osborne mentioned £6bn of public money for just this such a thing, along with a purported £20bn from the National Association of Pension Funds and the Pension Protection Fund.

In addition to this there's some interest from China in investing in UK infrastructure.

I appreciate it may be a weird concept getting private investment in but it works pretty well elsewhere. Maybe they have a point?

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

with money gained after a massive crackdown on tax evation, which is worth tens of billions each year

Keep dreaming. Companies don't pay tax their customers do. Yes that's us.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Indeed, doesn't change that there is something to cut and ring fencing it for political reasons, to the detriment of other less politically sensitive services, is very wrong.

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It's happening?

I take it you missed where George Osborne mentioned £6bn of public money for just this such a thing, along with a purported £20bn from the National Association of Pension Funds and the Pension Protection Fund.

In addition to this there's some interest from China in investing in UK infrastructure.

I appreciate it may be a weird concept getting private investment in but it works pretty well elsewhere. Maybe they have a point?

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Keep dreaming. Companies don't pay tax their customers do. Yes that's us.

What the government spends on Transport is nowere near enough, we need far more new and extra trains for example

And we need to crack down on busineeses like Topshop from evading tax and claw back evaded taxes!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

What the government spends on Transport is nowere near enough, we need far more new and extra trains for example

And we need to crack down on busineeses like Topshop from evading tax and claw back evaded taxes!

Topshop doesn't evade tax.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Sounds good, time for the NHS to feel some pain.

It is the trust i work for is shedding quite a few jobs now and a neighbouring trust is doing the same with heavy job losses.

Would you like it to shed lots more?

One things for sure the private sector is not recruiting and those that lose their jobs from the NHS will still be on the government payroll collecting dole money,that in turn means they will not be spending in the shops or paying tax ,which in turn means less jobs in the private sector in itself.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by richard1960

It is the trust i work for is shedding quite a few jobs now and a neighbouring trust is doing the same with heavy job losses.

Would you like it to shed lots more?

Yes things are already being cut to the bone Richard.